“I Was There Too” Another Pastor Confirms Andy Stanley’s Shocking Q and A
On Sept 19, 2019, Andy Stanley participated in a private dinner with several pastors in Gilbert, Arizona. Stanley was in town for a conference and after it ended, local clergy joined him for a Q&A that was not live-streamed and was closed to the public.
There, Stanley spent the next hour and a half spouting deeply troubling and unbiblical views on homosexuality, shocking other people in the room. He suggested there’s room for gay marriage in the church, that he might officiate a gay wedding, and that we shouldn’t tell people they need to give up their homosexuality to follow and remain in Christ.
This is according to the testimony of Ryan Visconti, the pastor of Generation Church in Mesa, Arizona, who publicly purported to be there. Ryan’s testimony was confirmed by another witness, Luke Simmons, the Pastor at Redemption Gateway who was also in attendance at this clandestine event and confirmed the details.
It’s now also been confirmed by another witness who was there, Pastor Brian Kruckenberg of New City Church in Phoenix, Arizona.
This lines up with our recent report, where we detailed how North Point Community Church openly partners with and promotes gay-affirming ministries, which are deeply entwined with his care and counselling network. When parents who have LBGTQ+ kids come in for counselling, they are not told that their kids’ sexuality can be redeemed, but rather theeir sexuality is set in stone and must be accepted, and even celebrated. Kruckenberg continues:
The exposure continues.
You’ll recall that Stanley previously said that it doesn’t matter if the bible is true, so long as it’s ‘mostly reliable, and that the “foundation of our faith is not the whole bible. In 2018, he got shellacked from all sides for saying that Christians needed to unhitch themselves from the Old Testament and in a recent sermon told Christians not to follow Jesus through the Old Testament, but only through the Gospels. In the last year, he also said he preached in a way that gave pagans permission not to believe, went all in on Critical Race Theory by saying ‘it’s not enough to be ‘not racist.’ you must be ‘anti-Racist’+ you’re all racists, and then argued that white people fear black men.
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It is quite apparent to all that this man hates the Bible and has no supernatural faith. So it is no surprise that all manner of error and heresy is starting to come out of his mouth.
He was just telegraphing his next moves. His actions and words clearly demonstrate his heart. This is very sad
Another thing that is sad is that his congregation are like a frog in hotter and hotter water. He just keeps slipping things in the sermons (and usually walks it back, so he has plausible deniability and his faithful can always insist a sound bite was taken out of context.) They are so used to him and lulled to sleep spiritually by his fine sounding words (he’s a charismatic speaker), that it would take a really egregious statement to shock them. Not too long ago, he told them, “a gay man or woman has more faith than you” (some of you, can ‘t remember exactly quote.) Very insulting. I live in the area and pray for my aquaintances to wake up. It does little good to try to tell them…they just get defensive and then want me to listen to the whole sermon.