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  • Bethel Leader Bill Johnson Denies Scripture – ‘God Doesn’t Control Everything’

    Bethel Leader Bill Johnson Denies Scripture – ‘God Doesn’t Control Everything’

    Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows. (Matthew 10:29-31 KJV)

    Bethel Church’s newly launched YouTube Web series titled “Rediscover Bethel,” which features an in-depth Q&A that addresses some of their beliefs and distinctives, has already paid dividends, as Bill Johnson and his associate pastor talk shop about whether or not God is in control of everything, concluding that he is not.

    In contrast to that, we would say that not only has God numbered the very hairs on our head, but he controls every movement they will ever make throughout their lifetime, so that a breeze cannot shift a single hair a tenth of a micron to the right without the Lord knowing about it and ordaining it to happen. There is not one stray atom in the universe for God. If this is not true, He is not God.

    For Bethel? They find the notion laughable and unpalatable in the extreme. In their view, sometimes things just happen, and God has no control over them.

    Q: Does he control everything? Is he in charge of everything, but doesn’t control everything? What are some of the ways you think about that and understand scripture?

    Johnson: My understanding in this area creates the greatest challenges for me…my approach is that God doesn’t control everything.

    He’s in charge of everything. And the way I’d illustrate is well, you’re a parent, or you’re in charge of your household, but you’re not in control of everything that happens, you know?

    Some dish will break. Something will happen. Somebody will say something that was unkind. Those things aren’t because of your influence. They just happen because you have a household of free will.

    So that’s my approach, is that God is absolutely sovereign and that he’s in charge of everything. But I don’t credit him with Hitler. I don’t credit him with the disasters that take place in the earth. I don’t look at these and go, “Well, this is the plan of God who’s devised wickedness so that his glory could be seen.”

    For me, that’s absolute nonsense.

    So I look at his, at his sovereignty seen, in that he’s written you and me into a sovereign plan. For example, God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. God is not willing. So is it God’s will for people to perish? No. Are they perishing? Yes. Why? Because there’s a [sic] wiggle room in there somewhere, where we have some measure of influence on the outcome.

    This eventually prompts Dann Farrelly, Bethel’s Associate Pastor and Dean of Bethel’s School of Supernatural Ministry, to chime in:

    And I think that’s the worldview of Scripture, you see a lot of powerful decision-makers in the angelic and demonic realm, as well as the human realm. And in the Lord’s sovereignty, sometimes I’ll say it to the students. “He’s so sovereign, he’s decided to be in control of what he wants to be and not in control the things he doesn’t want to be.”



  • Lecrae’s Pastor: Genesis 33 is About Jacob Paying Reparations To Esau For ‘Abuse’ and ‘Violations’

    Lecrae’s Pastor: Genesis 33 is About Jacob Paying Reparations To Esau For ‘Abuse’ and ‘Violations’

    Léonce B. Crump Jr. is the founder and senior pastor of Renovation Church in Atlanta, which was a PCA church plant. Crump was frequently found retweeting radicals like Ibram X. Kendi and liking tweets of Black Lives Matter activists demanding reparations and defunding the police, all before he deleted his Twitter account. He also happens to be Matt Chandler’s mentor who he credits for helping him understand race issues (Chandler wrote the forward to his book), as well as Lecrae’s pastor, which might tell you perhaps from where the rapper gets some of his wokeness.

    In 2019, Crump spoke at the 400 Leadership Summit hosted by the OneRace Movement. Referencing Genesis 33 – the story of how when Jacob met Esau later in life and Jacob was fearful that his older brother might attack him and so he brought him gifts – Crump explains that what really was happening was that Jacob was paying his brother deserved reparations. As @wokepreachertv points out, Crump “fabricates quotes that do not appear in the text by saying Esau suffered ‘abuse’ and Jacob admitted to ‘injuring,’ ‘robbing,’ and ‘violating’ his brother.”

    When he saw his brother, he decided to send first a series of peace offerings. Hundreds of goats, hundreds of sheep, hundreds of camels, hundreds of cows, hundreds of bulls, hundreds of donkeys. And then he limped forward, hoping for the best. He approached his brother and it says that he bowed down seven times to show deference to the man to whom he owed his life.

    And what happens next is astonishing. Esau embraces him, and they both begin to weep. And then Esau initially refuses his brother’s offering, saying that he already has enough, that the Lord has indeed, in spite of the abuse, still allowed him to prosper in the land. And Israel said, “Okay, I’ll keep my stuff.” If you know your Bible, you should have jumped back at that point. No, Israel insisted.

    He insisted, “I have injured you. I have robbed you. I have violated you. I have taken from you. I altered the course of your reality, Esau. So you must receive this reparation.”

    [TEXT CHECK: Genesis 33:8-11 actually reads:

    Then Esau said, “What do you mean by all this company which I met?”

    And he said, “These are to find favor in the sight of my lord.”

    But Esau said, “I have enough, my brother; keep what you have for yourself.”

    And Jacob said, “No, please, if I have now found favor in your sight, then receive my present from my hand, inasmuch as I have seen your face as though I had seen the face of God, and you were pleased with me.  Please, take my blessing that is brought to you, because God has dealt graciously with me, and because I have enough.” so he urged him, and he took it.]

    You see, Israel knew that it would not be right to simply apologize, because reconciliation, or in reality, and we don’t have time to unpack this either, conciliation, because you cannot reconcile what was not ever conciled, conciliation requires more than simply apologizing for the offense. It requires that defrauded parties be made whole.

    And so Israel, formerly Jacob, having met the Lord, having met the Lord, knew that he could not just simply approach his brother with seven bows and an apology. But, in fact, there was a cost required to make him whole.

    What does this story teach us? It teaches us how difficult reconciliation is. It involves risk. It comes with sacrifice. It comes with cost. It takes faith, an actual trust in God.

    As usual, the comments are gold:

    Transcript written by @wokepreachertv and posted with permission.

  • Largest ‘Christian’ Adoption Agency Warns White Parents Against Adopting Black Children

    Largest ‘Christian’ Adoption Agency Warns White Parents Against Adopting Black Children

    Three months ago Bethany Christian Services, the largest Christian adoption and foster agency in the United States revealed themselves to be treacherous twofold sons of hell after announcing they would be offering their adoption services to homosexual, lesbian, and transgendered couples.

    At the time, it was necessary to allow sodomites to adopt because “the need was so great” and they were taking an “all hands on deck” approach. When it comes to finding safe and loving homes for black children, maybe not so much.

    In their annual report, Bethany explains that they have spent the last 2.5 years focusing on becoming “an anti-racist organization” that has required “intensive learning experiences for all staff on anti-racism principles.” (Translation: indoctrinated in Critical Race Theory.)

    As a result, they have declared their opposition to the federal law, the Multi-Ethnic Placement Act (MEPA), which prohibits race from being a factor in adoption.

    Being freshly trained in the ways of wokeness, they are now convinced that MEPA has contributed to “disparate outcomes for BIPOC children and families” and are urging that a child’s race be “considered as part of the best interests determination for child placement.” This is being done because allowing white families to adopt black children from the foster care system “can cause a lot of harm to children of color.”

    In order to factor in the race quotient, they are putting a much stronger emphasis and consideration on “the cultural, ethnic, or racial background of the child and the capacity of the prospective foster or adoptive parent to meet the needs of a child of such background.”

    The report concludes by saying they believe that the laws that say the adoption process should be “colorblind” are misguided, as it “prevents social workers from ensuring the protection and support of Black children’s cultural heritage and from assessing whether a family is ‘unqualified or unprepared’ to parent a child of another race.”

    We said it last time and we’ll say it again; shame on them. May they cry out to God in repentance.

  • SBC Hires Independent Firm to Investigate Russell Moore Sex Abuse Cover-up Allegations

    SBC Hires Independent Firm to Investigate Russell Moore Sex Abuse Cover-up Allegations

    The Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) Executive Committee has hired Guidepost Solutions to investigate claims made by outgoing Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC) President Russell Moore that they mishandled and were involved in a cover-up of sexual abuse cases within monitoring churches.

    The startling claims were leaked by the outgoing Moore in a series of two letters, one of which was sent to the current SBC President J. D. Greear where he accused the Committee of engaging in “wickedness,” while painting himself as a martyr.

    Now, as I said to my trustee officers last year, through all of this I have tried to smile and pretend that everything is alright with me personally and to refrain from revealing the horrific actions you and I have experienced behind the scenes.

    and that

    These (Executive Committee leaders) are doctrinally orthodox and conservative leaders. They are talking about the sort of thing I am discussing here—and they don’t even know a fraction of a fraction of it.

    This naturally begs the question: how is it that Moore knew all about the sex abuse cover-up, and instead of shouting it from the rooftops years ago when it happened, chose to instead, in his own words, “smile and pretend that everything is alright” and “refrain from revealing the horrific actions?”

    What do you call someone like Moore, author of The Courage to Stand, who allegedly knew where all the bodies were buried, who put them there, and who threw the gun in the river, and did and said nothing about it?

    If you thought to yourself, “A coward,” you’re not wrong, but also a lot kinder than us.

    Guidepost is said to be a “global leader in monitoring, compliance, sensitive investigations, and risk management solutions and has deep experience providing advice and counsel to faith communities in this area.”

    They were recently hired by the entity formerly known as The Ravi Zacharias International Ministry to ferret out institutional breakdown in order to determine how their pervert namesake used his ministry to fund his own private freak-a-thon for 20 years, as well as by Summit Church to determine whether or not their new hire Bryan Lorrits mishandled a sexual abuse case.

    Guidepost is being hired to review the following:

    These recent allegations against the SBC Executive Committee of
    mishandling sexual abuse cases and mistreating sexual abuse victims; the allegations of a pattern of intimidation; and

    Review and enhance training provided to SBC Executive Committee staff and its board of trustees related to these matters, as well as its communications to cooperating churches and congregants in cooperating churches.

    There is no timeline for when the report will be issued, other than it will be after what will prove to be one of the most pivotal SBC conventions since its inception.

  • Op-Ed: The Voices the Church Needs

    Op-Ed: The Voices the Church Needs

    Former Pulpit & Pen contributor Kofi Adu-Boahen recently slammed Protestia as “not the voices the church needs,” but Sovereign Nations’ Michael O’Fallon begs to differ, pointing out that P&P was out front in exposing the current liberal drift and Critical Race Theory in the church (video below).

    The Background

    On June 7th, JD Hall mocked Kofi on Twitter, suggesting in a reply that Kofi could take a flight back to England (Kofi is British, for the record), leading many readers who were unaware of the personal nature or history behind their relationship to wonder why JD seemed to be picking on Kofi out of nowhere. Most readers didn’t even know Kofi used to minister alongside the P&P team.

    After the Twitter spat escalated, JD announced a plan to discuss the issue on Polemics Report (which is never published fast enough for the Twitter mob). Kofi flippantly asked to participate in the podcast via Twitter, then backed out once we offered to send him the information, insulting us in the process:

    Kofi then blocked several people who encouraged him to reconcile (including me), before apologizing to Twitter for “responding in kind” while continuing to attack us. I’m still waiting for my apology, but I’m not holding out hope.

    For the record, I had no idea what the history between them was until I heard it on the podcast. Yet Kofi blocked me simply because I work with JD (guilt by association, ironically the underlying mechanism of the CRT Kofi claimed he was falsely charged with supporting). My only interaction with Kofi prior to this was my response to his January tweet where he maligned me and every other faithful minister at Protestia. Prior to that I simply followed him on Twitter, where I was quite honestly edified by what he wrote and shared. Once Kofi blocked me (and tried to characterize it as taking the high road), I called him a coward and said blocking me was a sign of guilt. I stand by this assessment.

    My goal in this article is not to continue to give Kofi a hard time – JD’s issues with him are none of my particular business. My goal is to lay out this episode for the record and (possibly) encourage people to not be so quick to judge.

    And also to remind readers of Protestia that these are the voices the church needs, even if we come across as mean sometimes. As JD is fond of saying, truth is always loving and lies are always hateful.

    The full podcast, where JD reveals the background behind his issues with Kofi:

    Full Ep. 26 of The Causes of Things at Sovereign Nations, where Michael O’Fallon credits JD Hall and others with being out front in exposing the wokeism and the liberalism currently engulfing modern evangelicalism:

    I’m still more than happy to talk to Kofi and get his side of things. All he has to do is unblock me and reach out.

  • Delusional Charismatic Prophet About to Have Reckoning After Declaring Trump Will Return to Power by June 23

    Delusional Charismatic Prophet About to Have Reckoning After Declaring Trump Will Return to Power by June 23

    A self-proclaimed prophet who seemingly forgot the cardinal rule of charismatic chicanery- never, ever set a date– has gone ahead and done just that, declaring that they would be dancing in the streets on account of Trump returning triumphantly to the office of the presidency by June 23rd.

    The remark was made by Jeff Jansen, who we featured less than a month ago after being fired from the ministry he founded on account of leaving his wife and family and other “unscriptural and unbiblical behaviors.”

    Now, in a video posted to his Facebook page, Jansen explains:

    “President Trump is going to be addressing the GOP and the nation….watch what happens. I said by spring, which starts officially June 23, we’d be dancing in the streets. The Trump administration is on its way in. The pedophilia Biden administration- the fake administration- Biden’s administration, is on its way out. I don’t care if you like it or not- it doesn’t matter. We all know what took place, and God is going to do something amazing in this nation and through this nation, It’s revival time. It’s revolution time!”

    Jensen is perhaps best known as being a bold speaker in defense of Donald Trump. He falsely prophesied that Trump would win reelection, and when he didn’t, declared Trump was recognized in heaven as the legitimate President of the United States and that God would soon remove Joe Biden from office and reinstate Trump with the help of a military coup.

    Naturally, his followers have been undaunted by his repeated wrong prophecies and gutted personal life, commenting on the post:

    We look forward to seeing how he tries to weasel out of this one.

  • TGC Canada Again Argues that Their Churches Aren’t Being Persecuted

    TGC Canada Again Argues that Their Churches Aren’t Being Persecuted

    A Gospel Coalition council member and contributor has doubled down on his claim that Canadian Churches have not been persecuted, nor have they endured ill-treatment at all during the pandemic, suggesting that those claiming otherwise need to stop yapping about it, lest they “destabilize” the rest of the body.

    This isn’t the first time that author Pastor Paul Carter has had a go at this. Months ago, he published an article insisting that while there was “probably” some “overreach,” by and large, Christians have endured no “hostility and ill-treatment because of our religious beliefs,” as he concluded: “I’m not sure how any reasonable person could argue that [there was].”

    Well, he’s back. In a lengthy essay on the Gospel Coalition, he draws a comparison between the persecution in 1 Peter and what Canadian Christians have endured (being hit particularly hard by ruthless government leaders enforcing asinine lockdowns), saying that Peter’s goal was to “stabilize” the Christians there and give them a “realistic appraisal of their difficulties.”

    Carter incorporates Pliny the Younger’s letter to Trajan that sought advice on how he should deal with the Christians in their midst, showing that so long as Christians didn’t get too uppity, Trajan was content to enact a “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy that ensured a sense of normalcy around their coexistence. “Christianity was discouraged but not destroyed, Christian people were marginalized, but not martyred and converts from paganism understood that becoming a Christian would be costly but generally not fatal.”

    He argues that up until the time that Christianity was legalized by Constantine, Christians were really only formally persecuted for 2 years. In the other 260 years, things weren’t that bad. Carter explains that “this lesson ought to underscore the importance of being realistic about the challenges and difficulties that we are facing.”

    Drawing comparisons to Canadian churches, he says that the churches have had a difficult time, but they categorically have not been persecuted. He points to his own situation in Ontario, which involves him having to get up at 4:00 am and have multiple services, and confesses, “I have a hard time thinking of that as persecution,” whereas something like “4-5 in basements and root cellars, whispering hymns in the dark, knowing full well that if they get caught they will be executed or sent to internment camps” is real persecution.

    And here is the crux of his argument:

    What we’re experiencing here in Ontario, and throughout most of the Provinces in Canada, is inconvenient and exhausting – but it doesn’t feel to me like persecution and I don’t think it would be helpful for our people if I called it that. I think this letter from the Apostle Peter cautions me about making too much of the difficulties that I’m facing.

    That is because he is complying with the government, and the question at hand is what happens if he stops being so cooperative and starts to disobey them?

    That’s the fundamental flaw with his argument.

    He’s looking at churches that stopped meeting altogether, forbidden by the government to meet in any capacity and forced to do online services, or other churches forced to adhere to nonsensical and arbitrary capacity restrictions.

    He’s looking at churches that won’t sing anymore because the government has forbidden them to do so, saying it’s too unsafe.

    He’s looking at churches that insist that all members wear masks at all times and social distance, forbidden from having fellowship.

    He’s looking at churches that have altogether ceased taking communion, on the orders of the government, removing themselves from the elements for fear of getting fined.

    He’s looking at churches across the provinces and is saying “as long as you do all these things, you won’t get persecuted, and it’ll just be hardships and inconvenience.”

    In this way, he is 100% correct.

    Compliance with the government rules that dictate how and what a Christian church service must look like, and what the congregants can and can’t do will be exhausting but it won’t result in persecution.

    But what of the churches that will not comply? What of the churches that insist that Christ is Lord of the church, not the Government, and that they will all gather on the Lord’s day as one body to worship as the Scriptures say?

    You know their names by now. James Coates and GraceLife Church, arrested and jailed for a month. That church was barricaded and forcibly shut down, and is now having services in hiding.

    Tim Stephens and Fairview Baptist Church, arrested and put in jail. Fined thousands of dollars. Church locked up and forcibly shut down, and they have been doing some services in hiding.

    Jacob Reaume and Trinity Bible Chapel. Facing fines of over fifty million dollars – some of which cannot be appealed and must be paid. Church locked up and forcibly shut down, all the while being continually harassed by law enforcement and who has members fearful they could lose their jobs if they are known to be associated with the congregation.

    That is persecution.

    It isn’t on the same level as North Korea or Syria, but it doesn’t have to be. It is undeniable that it does exist in a milder form and has emerged whenever a congregation gets “out of line” according to the powers that be.

    But if you’re a church that doesn’t get out of line – handing your service over to Caesar in order to avoid his judgmental and intolerant eye, you’ll be standing in disobedience to the scriptures and to the word of God, but like Paul’s church, you’ll be just fine.

  • News Station Investigating Mark Driscol Puts Fox in Charge of the Henhouse

    News Station Investigating Mark Driscol Puts Fox in Charge of the Henhouse

    (Warren Throckmorton) Mark Driscoll and his religious business The Trinity Church has a show on Salem Broadcasting Network. In essence, it is a replay of him speaking to his congregation.

    Some of the former members and staff of The Trinity Church are bothered that their former pastor is promoted by this show and so they wrote to Salem Broadcasting’s affiliate Faithtalk 1360 in Phoenix to complain. They were represented by Chad Freese who was director of security at the Driscoll church until he quit a few weeks ago.

    This in itself is noteworthy because The Trinity Church exiles are following a similar pattern as the former Mars Hill Church members who felt harmed by their experience at the Seattle church. However, what I want to focus on is the reply of Marc Lucas Local Ministry Director at the station. Chad gave me the following email reply:

    Hi Chad, We at FaithTalk 1360 have been investigating the claims filed against Mark Driscoll.  We are working closely with Dunham Agency to review the information against Mark Driscoll.  We appreciate your email to the radio station.

    Thanks,
    Marc Lucas

    While it sounds good that the claims are being investigated, check out who is doing the investigating. Lucas says “The Dunham Agency” is working with them. In this story, the claims and former members are in the henhouse, and the Dunham Agency is the fox who is in charge of investigating a mysterious disappearance of some chickens.

    One of Mark Driscoll’s long time associates and damage control guru — Randal Taylor — just happens to work…

    To continue reading, click here

    Editor’s Note. This article was written by Warren Throckmorton and published at Warrenthrockmorton.com. Title changed by Protestia.

  • GraceLife Church and James Coates Sue AHS to Get Their Building Back

    GraceLife Church and James Coates Sue AHS to Get Their Building Back

    GraceLife Church has gone on the offensive and is suing Alberta Heath Services (AHS) to get their church back, making an application to the Court of Queen’s Bench demanding immediate access to their chruch and and property, according to a press release from the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms.

    The move comes two months after AHS joined forces with law enforcement to create a barricade around GraceLife Church and prohibit anyone from entering, causing large protests and creating a stark symbol of the tyranny and hostility of the Canadian government toward churches.

    The church has been without its building since April 7th, becoming one of the first churches in Canada to meet in secret and form the underground church, borne out of necessity in order to avoid further arrest, fines, and jail time. According to the release:

    The GraceLife Applicants contend the public health restrictions on worship violate their rights to freedom of religion, freedom of expression, freedom of peaceful assembly, freedom of association, liberty, and security of the person as protected by sections 2 and 7 of the Charter.

    In addition to asking the Court to strike down the public health restrictions, the GraceLife Applicants are seeking the immediate return of their building and an order from the court prohibiting law enforcement and government agents from attempting to break up or disrupt worship services.

    Three congregants of GraceLife Church, Dr. Donna Klay, Achnes Smith, and Allan Neil, have joined the Church and Pastor Coates in asking the Court to uphold their constitutional rights by reversing the government’s seizure of their church building.

    In addition to that, they’ve also launched an appeal against the June 7 decision that said James Coates charter rights were not violated,

    Expert reports have been filed in support of this court challenge from medical professionals and scientists including:  esteemed virologist and immunologist, Dr. Byram Bridle; an expert pathologist; in addition to a medical microbiologist and infectious disease specialist. These extensive expert reports include scientific evidence that asymptomatic transmission is negligible, that masks are ineffective and irrational, and that capacity limits of church gatherings are also irrational and have no basis in science.

    The Justice Centre will also be appealing the June 7 decision of Alberta Provincial Court Judge Robert Shaigec, who ruled that the arrest, prosecution and imprisonment of Pastor Coates did not violate his Charter rights and freedoms, and that ticketing Pastor Coates for leading a regular worship service did not violate freedoms of religion, expression, assembly, and association.

    The next court date for Coates is on June 30, where they will “challenge the constitutionality and legality of Dr. Deena Hinshaw’s lockdown restrictions.”

  • Hunh. Bethel Church Launches Web Series Offering In-depth Responses to Their Controversial Beliefs

    Hunh. Bethel Church Launches Web Series Offering In-depth Responses to Their Controversial Beliefs

    In a surprising move, Bethel Church in Redding, CA has launched a YouTube Web series titled “Rediscover Bethel’ featuring an in-depth Q&A that addresses some of their beliefs and distinctives.

    ‘Rediscover Bethel’ is a video series that addresses common questions and misconceptions about Bethel Church in Redding, California. This series specifically covers Bethel’s theological beliefs, teachings, and practices—featuring Senior Leader Bill Johnson, Senior Associate Leader Kris Vallotton, and Associate Pastor and Dean of BSSM Dann Farrelly. This series includes videos on Bible translations, Jesus’ deity, physical manifestations of the Holy Spirit, theology of healing, the gospel of repentance, prophecy, and much more.

    During the first episode, they address topics like:

    • Jesus Christ is Perfect Theology
    • The Theology of Sickness and Healing
    • The Sovereignty of God
    • Is The Passion Translation Heresy?
    • What Bethel Believes About The Gospel and The Cross
    • Communion and The Sacrifice of Jesus for Humanity

    They spend about 20 minutes on each topic, with the pastors fielding questions from the host that offer the controversial leaders the opportunity to sit in the hot seat.

    While he does offer some clarity to a point, unfortunately he might as well be sitting on a block of ice with the air conditioner cranked to 11 for all the tough questions and follow-up Johnson is given.

    For example, in the topic of healings and miracles, he clarifies what he believes, but a very obvious follow-up question is, “Then why do you wear glasses?” or “Then what about your deaf son?” or “Then why did your church and the supernatural school of ministry repeatedly shut down their school and the healing rooms on account of COVID?” or “Why was an outbreak at your school responsible for shutting down a county of over 175,000 people if your ministry has such an emphasis and belief on healing?”

    But these were left unasked and unanswered. Rather, he says that he believes it is God’s will to heal everyone and then later contradicts it with a story of how “one lady, as I was praying for I could tell you…that if I prayed for healing, it would grieve (The Holy Spirit).”

    He explains that when it comes to healing “I can’t pray ‘if it’s your will’ because for me, that’s a prayer of unbelief.”

    When the host brings up Joni Eareckson Tada, who’s been paralyzed for years, and what to make of that and her faith, Johnson is introspective and falters, offering:

    [I] can’t wrap my head around it…I would never want them to somehow feel less than, or that they don’t have enough faith, or that somehow this is, you know, God’s punishment on their life for that nonsense. I don’t want to do that. But I also don’t want to create a theology…around what doesn’t happen? You know, I mean, I don’t have good, I don’t have explanations at all.