What God Wants Me to Have: The JD Hall Interview
Streaming live on Tuesday, October 17th at 8:00 pm MT, David interviews his friend JD Hall and his wife Mandy about their life changes over the last year and a half.
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Streaming live on Tuesday, October 17th at 8:00 pm MT, David interviews his friend JD Hall and his wife Mandy about their life changes over the last year and a half.
David,
Whatever happens in the interview, you’re an inspiration. Despite everything that your mother did to you before you were born, you made it. If you choose to forgive her, you’re a better man than me.
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What a beautiful and heartfelt interview. I certainly wish JD and Mandy God’s very best during this new chapter of their lives. We have seen for years how God has given JD the gift of discernment. Now we can see that God has given him the gifts of restoration and mercy as well.
I will forever be thankful for JD’s body of work in defending the faith. Out of the primary players in the discernment ministry, no one comes close to possessing his intellect, wit, and zeal. No One.
I am saddened that men like Chris Rosebrough didn’t even communicate with him. Shame on you, Chris – my opinion of you just dropped through the floor.
I am thankful to hear JD (and family) are recovering from this upheaval and pray that we will once again be blessed with commentary from JD – I would subscribe in a heartbeat.
You only heard one side.
so? we already heard EVERYONE else’ side, JD has been silent since June of 2022. it’s about time he gave his side v especially after the way Chris, Phil, and Justin dumped all over him right after he got booted from his church. it’s about time.
Relax, Amy. Go have a Xanax.
I am quite familiar with the litany of charges against him and am not defending him. If even some are true, he clearly is not biblically fit to be a pastor, but that has no bearing on my opinion of his body of work defending the faith.
It’s good to hear where they are at and where they are going at this point in their lives. He mentioned Beth Moore and JD Greear as the only prominent well-wishers, but many others who are less prominent, and not knowing a means to communicate, had a desire to communicate such things as well.
Sadly, the mentions of the previous home church reactions should have been somewhat expected. As many of us have experienced after being involved in numerous congregations over the years, hard-headed leadership often results in a larger number of hard-headed men within a local church. A ever-present spirit of humility from the lead elder often results in a larger number of men who exhibit humility and grace within the local church. The same is true regarding recognition and position, and regarding how we interact with others and the world. Our exceptions of grace extended, even when extended to many in a loving way, is not enough to counteract the other prominent examples we have lived out on a daily basis. As is said, as we sow, so shall we reap. This is perhaps a blind spot that should be reconciled as part of the path forward.
Jordan has been very gifted in his ability to articulate biblical and political truth while cutting through the clutter of theological and political noise, distortions and deceptions. However, the numerous examples and instructions in Scripture regarding humility and avoiding the lure of preeminence were not lived out in a way that strengthened Jordan’s flock in this area. A spirit of pride apparently overcame a spirit of grace. This is a sign of spiritual immaturity in these areas.
Throughout the process of sanctification, we are to be in the process of transitioning from living by the flesh toward living by the Spirit. Spiritual maturity is when we are nearing the “living by the Spirit” end of that spectrum.
I agree with JD…. his sermons are very worthwhile to continue to have available. Much good exegetical preaching over the years came from his preaching ministry, and many wolves and worldly agendas were exposed in his additional efforts. I pray that God continues to lead a guide in his family’s path forward.
Right now what I will say is time will tell.
The fruit of the Spirit becoming ever-more evident in our lives is the evidence of where we are on the path toward spiritual maturity. So, as you said, time will tell. The same is true for all of us.
At least the teenaged children of those JD hates are safe for the time being.
He was one of the most arrogant Christians I’ve ever seen.
“The life of a pastor is a terrible existence”. (Listen around 8:45 to 9:08).
You’d never hear such words from Apostle Paul, or any truly called pastor.
The Apostle Paul:
2 Timothy 4:9-16 ESV – 9 Do your best to come to me soon. 10 For Demas, in love with this present world, has deserted me and gone to Thessalonica. Crescens has gone to Galatia, Titus to Dalmatia. 11 Luke alone is with me. Get Mark and bring him with you, for he is very useful to me for ministry. 12 Tychicus I have sent to Ephesus. 13 When you come, bring the cloak that I left with Carpus at Troas, also the books, and above all the parchments. 14 Alexander the coppersmith did me great harm; the Lord will repay him according to his deeds. 15 Beware of him yourself, for he strongly opposed our message. 16 At my first defense no one came to stand by me, but all deserted me. May it not be charged against them!
Obviously not the same situation, but there are times that the life of a pastor can be considered a terrible existence, especially if we create a situation where we are outside of the will of Christ. Contentment through these situations is when we have been faithful, while knowing we have been forgiven, and the fruit of the Spirit is ever-present in midst of our trials. When such trials come, especially when they are mostly self-inflicted, few are shown to be at that level of spiritual maturity. Most of God’s actual children go through such a trial as through a valley and a refining process, to emerge out the other side having been changed.
Time will tell.
That’s because Hall was called to be a pastor about as much as Carl Lentz was. At least Lentz didn’t beat his wife, so maybe he was a better husband at least.
Thank God JD wasn’t more famous, because the damage he’s done to Christ church could be much worse.
JD didn’t beat his wife. might help if you listened to the podcast. but you only listen to one side. You’re the one that judges hypocritically and won’t take the log out of their eye.
JD is garbage. Bullied a teen to death. Literally. Arrogant, got hooked on drugs, beat his wife, stole from his church. What a pastor. Why don’t you tell me how I’m a hypocrite, Amy?
Hilly: those things you just stated are all false. I can personally attest to the fact they are all false. As a member of the church for over ten years-was he arrogant at times during apologetics arm of ministry yes…steal from church -NO, best wife -NO, drug addict -NO was He was prescribed Xanax then fell into the negative consequences of benzodiazepines YES (which I do not recommend anyone take)
removed himself from ministry/pastorate -YES
What log do I need to remove? I don’t stick up for morally corrupt pastors who besmirch Christ’s church like you do. You know nothing about me, but I know something about you that you need to repent of.
David, Thank you for the update. I’ve been concerned for JD’s well being. One wonders how it would have unfolded had he been a partner, parent and pastor. All of which is more than enough. It’s unclear why he felt the need to add to that: publisher, podcaster, political activist and provocateur. Was “pastor” never his calling and, thus, not enough?
When someone spends an inordinate amount of time giving you there CV, you have to wonder about their motivations for what they do. By his own admission, Hall doesn’t have a pastor’s heart, and he suffers from pride on a grand scale. Add to that the fact that he’s just plain mean and miserable, there’s a person who’s opinion I give not a whittle for.
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Seeing deceptions and false teaching on a grand scale and seeing those things becoming evermore entwined throughout Christianity was likely the initial motivating factor for the path he started heading down. Becoming caught up in it and the notion that he needed to lead the charge of putting the spotlight on all the false teachers and deceptions, because others were failing to do so, eventually led to the projection of prideful arrogance in his approach.
That said, nearly all of his observations and conclusion, both political and exegetical, along with societal and within the SBC were factual and correct. He was correct, and he knew it. That doesn’t necessarily translate into becoming prideful, but it often does, and it did in his case.
He seemingly saw others as pridefully stubborn in continuing down their paths of deception and false teaching, even after he pointed it out. All-the-while, he seemed blind to the detrimental impact of his sarcasm and was wilfully ignoring the Apostle Paul’s instructions on how we are to approach others pertaining to these sorts of issues.
This is the result that Paul warned about:
1 Corinthians 13:1-3 ESV
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. [2] And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. [3] If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.
JD is feeling that impact. All the knowledge and understanding he had came from God. Those who are deceived are deceived. If we have been given knowledge, we should share that knowledge in a way that is pleasing to our Lord. We have been given those instructions.
This sounds like it was written by ChatGPT, but I have to agree with the main thrust of it.
Matthew 23:12 ESV
Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
This verse is in reference to how the scribes and Pharisees exalted themselves and pointing to what will happen before the throne. If we are guilty of exulting ourselves, it would be much better to humbled and chastened in this life where repentance and restoration is available.
If we are truly children of God, we will be chastened by our heavenly father. It is those who are allowed to continue without such chastening that should truly fear having such issues then dealt with before the Throne. God has specifically stated that he chastens those who are His. Those who are not will be cast into outer darkness.
Since this is the biblical outcome, we should give all praise and glory and honor to God when we are chastened and humbled in this life. We are His.
I think I see where you are going with this.