Bethel Leader Kris Valloton Claims That Your Words ‘Create’ Worlds
Kris Valloton is the Co-founder of the School of the Prophets and Senior Associate Leader of Bethel Church. No stranger to saying weird and wacky things, he’s previously taught that Adam Was ‘Procreating With God’ and ‘Co-Creating’ When He Named the Animals and that God made Adam ‘Male’ AND ‘Female’ + Adam’ co-created Eve.’
He recently reposted a message he gave at the 2007 School of Prophets, claiming that modern-day prophecies “become worlds” and “change people’s destiny,” saying the only reason Israel is still not in “bondage” today in Babylon is that the prophet Daniel was prophesying and creating a world where it wasn’t so.
Grace is the operational power of God. How many of you know their prophecy isn’t a prophecy because you fall down, because you sound like Shakespeare, or you yell, scream, or you quote Bible verses? The only thing that makes a prophecy a prophecy is that on your words, and let’s say your words are red, just your human; it’s an example, your human words are red. On the red, there’s the blue, and the blue is grace. The blue is the ability to do what the red says. You can shake, fall down, sound like Shakespeare, be dramatic. It’s all good. I like it all, don’t misunderstand me. It doesn’t work in the marketplace,
but I like it all.You can quote Bible verses. It doesn’t make it a prophecy. The only thing that makes it a prophecy is that when you’re speaking that God releases the blue on the red, and the blue gives the red the ability; the blue; the blue makes the red available.
Of course, that’s not what grace is at all, nor is it even close. That confusion aside, he offers:
…Paul said ‘but especially that you would prophesy’, because when you prophesy, words become worlds, and you change people’s destiny, you create things that are not, and you call them as though they are.
I believe that you could change history through prophetic proclamations. I believe that Daniel changed Israel’s history through prophetic proclamations.
I believe that if Daniel wasn’t with Nebuchadnezzar, if he wasn’t in Babylon, which is, you know, modern Iraq, if he wasn’t there prophesying, you know, 70 years, opening up the windows towards Jerusalem, prophesying, Israel still be in that bondage today.
For a full commentary on why this message from Valloton is so heretical and stupid, click here
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Yesterday my words created a new Porsche GT3 RS although It’s not in the garage or in the backyard – it goes without saying I’m a little put out with God right now…
Wealth is worthless in the day of wrath, reprobate idiot.
Get lost, troll
Your behavior over the years here, M – the trolling, the false accusing, the harassment, deceit, envy, and so on. You’ve committed so many egregious sins here over the years, it’s impossible to count them.
It is indeed reprobate
It is indeed idiotic
I don’t know what to tell you except if you don’t want to be called a reprobate idiot, then quit being a reprobate idiot. Otherwise I’ll call it like I see it.
You’ll notice I never called RoP a reprobate idiot, or other posters here? … even when I might disagree with them?
Yeah, well there’s good reason for that …
My concern is for the sheep.
You, M, are a wolf.
I have no pity for wolves …
I have no interest in appealing to wolves …
You’ve been called to repentance many times, but you have rejected Jesus. By your own words, you have told us this. You are here for no other reason than to make trouble.