Rick Warren Casually Lies About John MacArthur in Russell Moore Interview
It doesn’t take much to remind ourselves how catastrophically bad a preacher and teacher Rick Warren is. Famous for peddling to the church the poison and spiritual strychnine that is The Purpose Driven Life for over thirty years- a damaging and unbiblical theology that has seeped into tens of thousands of churches, he was mostly dormant for a the last decade, but then has reinserted himself into the conversation as a warrior for women preachers.
We covered him recently after Saddleback announced they were having a “Blacks Only worship service” where no white members were allowed in, so the “black fold” could have a “safe space” to “heal,” and for blasting white Christians for having no discernment and not caring about black people.
In an interview with Russell Moore where he engaged in epic levels of bragging and bible twisting, a few things caught our eye. Apart from the lie that he looked at over 300 bible commentaries on Peter’s sermon in Acts 2. (Because the first 299 didn’t do?) is the casual way he lies about John MacArthur:
Peter says ‘in the last days I will pour out my spirit on all flesh’. All Flesh. ‘Your sons and daughters will prophesy.’ That’s different than the Old Testament. Russell, I’ve looked at over 300 commentaries on those verses and it’s interesting to me that almost everybody goes ‘yep in in the church everybody gets to play, everybody gets to preach, everybody gets to prophesy.’
And the people who don’t like that ignore that verse. John MacArthur doesn’t even cover that verse, he just skips over it.
It’s difficult to express how stupid it is to say that because Mary Magdalene gave a message to the apostles from Jesus about his resurrection, this means she was “preaching” and is sufficient prooftext to declare that women can be senior pastors, contra 1 Timothy 2 and Titus 1. If you want evidence that Warren couldn’t exegete his way out of a paper bag, well, there you go.
But to the point: John MacArthur’s whole ministry is verse-by-verse preaching through the bible. That’s this thing. He has his own study bible with a 200-word commentary on just Acts 2:17 with 18 contextualizing cross-references to other passages. He’s preached on it many times over the last 50 years, and in fact has a 33-book commentary on the New Testament, with a whole book on Acts alone.
John MacArthur has covered this verse in much more depth than Warren ever has and he’s gotten more out of it than simply an assertion that ‘young women will prophecy= they can preach to men and lead churches.’
But Warren is a liar, and his deceit should surprise no one.
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Democrats within the church operate in an identical underlying fashion as Democrats outside the Church, and coordinate with each other as well. The in-church variety merely conduct their outward appearances and commentary as a secular Democrat of 15-20 years ago. They are all pushing toward the same agenda, but the church variety still needs to be more deceptive and less open about their real agenda. Literally, every one of these people aligns with the Democratic party or with RINOs.
The fact that John MacArthur gets singled out (seemingly out of the blue) tells you how few “A-list” celebrity preachers have the gall to offend our culture’s feminist sensibilities. I’m sure that there are many influential evangelicals that would say they adhere to the Biblical teaching for men’s and women’s roles but you will never see then use their ministries/platforms to proclaim the Biblical teaching.
When it comes to feminism, there’s still a lot of contending that needs to be done and I’m not convinced that de facto position of Complementarianism held by conservative Christians is very effective at protecting the church from people like Rick Warren.
IMHO, the attitude of Complementarian thought has always been an apology to feminism followed by interpreting every controversial verse in such a way that it leans towards feminism as far as possible while still technically following the “letter of the law”. For example, 1 Timothy 2:12 is usually interpreted in such a way that the primary emphasis is placed “over a man” which is then followed by an explanation along the lines of “as long as there’s no men in the crowd a woman can take on any preaching role” as if the point of that verse that commands women not to teach is actually providing examples of where women can teach. I believe this attitude is also seen when conservatives have no problem with women pastors as long as they’re not “senior” pastors or they go down some semantic rabbit hole about the meaning of words while completely losing sight of the plain meaning of the passage.
Much gets said about the “inerrancy” of Scripture or the “authority” of Scripture but very little is said about the “clarity”, “sufficiency”, or “necessity” of Scripture and it is the denial or ignorance of these last three attributes that allows people like Rick Warren to wreak havoc on the Church.
There will always be people like RW, (in this case, a politician and pragmatist who increasingly lives by the end justifies the means). However, the far bigger problem here is that so many churches and leaders have followed him and pushed his subversive ideas.
Sad but hardly surprising. Warren jumped the theological shark long, long ago.
Prophets of old were not priests. Prophet and priest are not the same thing. It’s possible for one to be both prophet and priest, but to my knowledge it would be very rare. I can’t think of any examples in scripture.
Acts 2:17 says “all flesh” – which includes children and many others, besides women, who to not have the calling, qualities, or qualifications to be a pastor. By Warren’s backwards “reasoning”, a 2-year-old could be a lead pastor.
Warren knows full well what he’s doing. And he knows full well it is sinful.