A New York pastor is raising eyebrows after using provocative and crude language to blast New York Mayor Zoran Mamdani and the Democrats in a recent sermon.
James David Manning, 79, is the longtime pastor of ATLAH World Missionary Church, formerly known as Bethelite Missionary Baptist Church. ATLAH stands for All The Land Anointed Holy, a moniker Manning has given to his home base of Harlem.
No stranger to controversy, he is known for his vivid objections to homosexuality- having previously called for them to be stoned to death while claiming that sodomites like to hang out at Starbucks because the baristas put semen in their coffee, which gay people enjoy as a “flavoring.”
In a recent sermon, Manning blasted the epidemic of fatherlessness. He insisted that men were crucial to raising a family while also lamenting the destructive fallout from liberal politics and Democratic leaders, opining:”I’m tired of the Democrat Party making b*tches out of our women, and p*ssies out of our men.”
One leader he blasted was New York Mayor Zoran Mamdani, whom he described as a Muslim, jihadist, and Intifada-Hamas-supporting anti-Jesus Muslim.
22 responses to “NY Pastor Raises Eyebrows For Fiery and Crude Sermon: ‘I’m tired of the Democrat Party making p*ssies out of our men’”
Scripture doesn’t address socially or culturally taboo words and language. Jesus and the Apostles used harsh language. It is the reason the scribes and pharisees began to target Jesus, in fact. They invited Him to dinner, and He tore them to pieces right to their faces, right at the dinner table. They said “you insult us”. He used harsh, offensive and provocative language for a reason. And scripture says from that time they began to target Him to try to catch Him in something He might say. (Luke 11:37-54) Scripture calls wicked people dogs, trash and all sorts of names. The question is whether or not we judge a man’s words and deeds according to the commandments of God or the commandments of men. And by the commandments of God, the determining factor is mostly whether or not what is said is true. Though I believe scripture is also clear that we should not make a habit of using harsh language all the time. We should neither make up our own limits nor push or test the limits God has set in place. We’ve got to stick to scripture and not do as the pharisees did, making up a bunch of nonsense that God never commanded.
This pastor spoke the truth and I find no fault with him. He’s got some people’s attention and offended those who need to be offended, just as Jesus did at that dinner table. Now the offended will react the same way the scribes and pharisees did. They’ll target him and start trying to catch him in something he might say. And when that happens, when we’ve got their attention, and we’re being targeted and chased, that’s when we have a perfect opportunity to lead them straight to the Cross, the true and complete Gospel and the real Jesus. That’s one way of being a “fisher of men”. But we must not sin in what we do. We must obey the Lord and follow His lead. That’s key. It’s not a tactic or trick we set out to use or want to use. It’s just how things tend to happen a lot of times.
We all need to remember that politics and institutions of mankind ultimately are not the solution, and remember that the problem is and always has been sin, ever since Adam sinned. It’s not exclusive to any ethnicity or skin color. There is only one dividing line established by God. And there is only one solution to that problem of sin and the corruption of creation – the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
He’s correct that men need to grow some gonads and a spine. That is an indirect reference to the created order and to the sin of Adam. The first thing God said to Adam in Gen.3:17 was “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife …”.
Everybody sees the problem. The problem is identified. Adam was the first weakling. And since his sin, all men are weaklings.
And so this is how it all points right to the Gospel. Our strength is not our own. Our strength comes from the Lord. It’s not our own feet that are steadfast, it’s the solid rock we’re standing on that is steadfast. And it only works when men ourselves submit to the Lord and humble ourselves before Him. That proper created order was destroyed by Adam’s weakness, and it is restored in Jesus Christ, by the power of the Holy Spirit, to overcome the corruption of the flesh and creation, so that we can live righteous and Godly lives, not by our own strength but by His.
It’s ultimately a heart problem. And the one and only solution to that problem is the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
This is how we lead them smack dab right to the Cross. The problem is identified. Our job is to point out the solution and to explain why and how it is the one and only solution.
I hope he will be called a faithful servant when he passes on to the next world.
His delivery might not have been appropriate, but his point is true. Look around you. Feminism has neutered men.
“Scripture doesn’t address socially or culturally taboo words and language”. Yes, it does ! “Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.” – Eph. 4:29
Nonsense. Scripture does not tell us to obey the world, the commandments of men, social or cultural norms. It tells us to obey the Lord.
Read it in context, Eph. 4:25-29. The subject is speaking the truth. The word in Eph. 4:29 is “sapros”. It means rotten/corrupt.
Lies are not good for building up the one in need. The truth is good for building up. You have to ask yourself, “building up” how. What does God consider “building up”. And what does God consider to be a need. It could be that someone needs to be strongly rebuked. As scripture also tells us to rebuke. If one is doing wrong, he doesn’t need to be encouraged in his wrongdoing. To do so would be sinful. And if it’s not getting through, then it may takes harsh language.
“cussing” and harsh language most certainly can be sinful. But it is not always sinful. It depends.
Be careful that you don’t become like the pharisees, making up a bunch of mess that God never commanded. (Matt. 15:8-9)
For crying out loud. Nowadays it’s just about taboo to say the words “husband” or “wife”.
Are you going to call confused and wicked people by their preferred pronouns and lie to them? Are you going to justify wickedness which is itself abominable sin (Prov. 17:15)?
No, if they are offended by hearing the truth, that’s just too bad …
What does God consider a need, and what does God consider to be “building up”. He’s the author of the book. It’s His definitions that are relevant.
Did your parents never discipline you harshly? Was it to tear you down? Where you not in need of correction? No you were rebuked and corrected because you needed to be rebuked and corrected.
Be careful, my friend.
I am not saying that it is ok to go around “cussing”, being mean, harsh and such with every other word, for no good reason, in a manner that would itself be friendship with the world and enmity with God, would itself be a matter of obeying the commandments of men, and would draw focus away from what matters most. What I’m saying is that it is not necessarily sinful when there is good reason, when the truth is being spoken, when one is speaking against the wickedness, when the speech is describing the severity of the wickedness, and so on.
In some cases, in our culture, certain words and phrases, particularly those that have sexual connotations, have become taboo specifically because they are not befitting righteous people. And there are other words and phrases and sayings that are not taboo, that should be, which Christians should not be using. In those cases, I’d say such language should likely never be used, because it can shift focus away from the matter at hand and turn the mind of the hearer away from focus on Godly things, and rather than speaking to the severity of a given matter, it can make light of it. So one pertinent factor is whether or not it is counter-productive.
We’ve got to remember, God does not conflict with Himself, and neither does His word conflict with itself. As I said, scripture itself often refers to wicked people with very harsh language, and what by social and cultural norms would be “name-calling”. If we are using harsh language for the same reasons and the same way God’s word uses harsh language, then we certainly would not be sinning.
It just depends. But be careful, my friend, that you do not walk into a snare. Our language and speech absolutely must not be dictated by the world. And once you start putting social and cultural norms in a place they shouldn’t be, you’re walking yourself right into a nasty trap. Friendship with the world is enmity with God. (James 4:4)
tektoon is obviously a self appointed expert on Scripture. His novels disguised as comments are so long winded, we need coffee by the gallon to stay awake to read them !
Well wouldn’t you know it. Here comes an offended pharisee right now. Case in point. You are trying to hold me to cultural and social norms, and the standards of men, when my posts are not sinful. So you are not building-up or meeting any legitimate need. Instead, you are tearing down and serving yourself.
You are described in Matt. 15:8-9
Nobody’s forcing you to read the posts. I’m not stopping anybody else from posting. The past few have been a response to someone who took issue with what I posted, in which case I have both a right and a necessity to respond with as much detail and explanation as necessary. And if you believe my interpretations of scripture are incorrect, then try correcting me rather than employing childish ad-hominem.
But I know it’s not the length of the posts you don’t like. It’s the content …
At a deeper level, your analysis of me does not factor the Holy Spirit. So you assume things that are not true. You assume that what I am doing is coming from wickedness of the heart, because you yourself are wicked of heart. But I’m not like you. And it’s only by the grace of God, and the work of the Holy Spirit. It’s not about me. It’s about the Lord. It’s about the Gospel. It’s about reaching the lost. Including those who are disgusted with pharisees such as yourself, who call themselves Christians …
I take great joy, comfort, and encouragement in reading the posts of others who post the truth of God’s word. As any truly born again Christian would. I love to read it and hear it. And I also take joy in good honest debate, because if I’m wrong in my interpretations of scripture, then I want to know and understand how and why. That is, in fact, how I’ve learned – by being open to correction, and humbling myself before the Lord. I am just a part of the body of Christ, no lesser or greater than any other.
Maybe it could be that the Lord leads me to post as I do, in obedience to Him yet with proper disregard for the commandments of men, just because He wants to reach self-absorbed, Pharisaical busybodies like you.
I don’t obey you. Right. I obey the Lord. And you have not taken His place. So if you intend to correct me, then use scripture to do so. If you don’t want to read the posts, then don’t read them. Nobody’s forcing you to read them. Childish playground mess does not and will not move me. The commandments of men do not move me. Cultural and social norms do not move me. If you want to move me, you’ve got to appeal to the commandments of God. Right?
“For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes” – Romans 1:16
See, so you think you’re holding up a mirror and holding me to my own standards. But you’re not. And the reason you’re not is because they’re not my standards. They’re God’s standards. One of us is abiding by the commandments of men, and one of us is abiding by the commandments of God. So you are accomplishing nothing but to expose your own wickedness.
At the root of it, you fail to factor the Holy Spirit, you deny the Gospel, and you deny the power thereof.
“25 The fear of man lays a snare,
but whoever trusts in the LORD is safe.
26 Many seek the face of a ruler,
but it is from the LORD that a man gets justice.
27 An unjust man is an abomination to the righteous,
but one whose way is straight is an abomination to the wicked.” (Prov. 29:25-27)
The difference between what you’ve done and what I’m doing is that I am responding as I am in order to build you up concerning how the Lord says you should be built up, and I am meeting your need concerning what the Lord considers to be a need.
It all hinges on what is sinful and what is not. It hinges on the commandments of God. And this is very important. I would not be posting it if it were not so. You need to see and understand exactly how and why your tactics don’t work, because you need to see and understand the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. Do not blaspheme the Holy Spirit. Do not fall into the snare of the commandments of men, which do not factor the Gospel. It will lead you to wrong assumptions and subsequent false accusations every single time.
Our mirror is God’s word. Our standard is the commandments of God. That is what we measure ourselves against. Understand?
This is very important. It is the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
As I noted, this is how it often works out. Here you are chasing me, just as the scribes and pharisees chased Jesus, and you’ve been led straight to the foot of the Cross.
You do not know why I say what I say, our why I say it as I say it. (I don’t fully know either, why I’m led to say it). And that’s the entire point. You’ve set out to “fix” me according to the commandments of men, but God is fixing you instead. That’s how it often works. That’s how it’s guaranteed to work when you appeal to and obey the world’s standards rather than His. You will run smack dab right into the law of Moses (your one accuser – John 5:45) and headlong into foot of the Cross.
Can a man ever be wrong or out of line when he appeals to scripture and the commandments of God? Who would have the authority to say he’s wrong? You? Have you taken God’s place? Do you now make the rules? … ponder this.
The understanding of scripture, the implanted word (James 1:21), by the leading of the Holy Spirit is a free gift. It’s completely free. All you have to do is ask. I’m not a “self appointed” anything at all. I’m just a part of the body of Christ, used as He uses me, which is not the same way He uses everyone. Right. We’re not all the same. We do not all have the same job. He does not use us all the same way. But if you lack wisdom, then ask for it (James 1:5). It’s free.
This is the Gospel …
One of us is indeed an obstinate self-appointed expert who is unwilling to heed correction, who doesn’t want to hear what he doesn’t want to hear, wants to be superior, and doesn’t like it when others speak with the authority of the Holy Spirit. Now you can ponder which of us that is …
It doesn’t take a huge amount of expertise to know and understand that God does not conflict with Himself, and neither does His word conflict.
It doesn’t take a huge knowledge of scripture to know that there is no list of bad words and phrases we’re not allowed to use. So we measure by other factors, according to the commandments of God, and not the commandments of men, because it’s His word, not that of any man (including oneself).
Nothing I’ve said on this thread could possibly be considered to be any sort of “expert” level to begin with. This is all very basic stuff. It’s just the plain and simple Gospel. Just as plain and simple as it possibly could be.
Ponder these things. I have to go to work …
unfortunately tektoon, instead of seeing your pride and self appointed infallibility when it comes to interpreting Scripture, you play the martyr and call everyone else a “pharisee”.
PRIDE !
why should I should obey you? Did someone die and make you God? Do you own this website? Are you the supreme ruler of the comments section here? … exactly which of us has a problem with PRIDE ?… hoo boy
If my posts are as bad as you claim, then you should to tell David Morrill that Protestia should quit approving my posts.
My posts have not violated any commandment of God. They only violate your commandments, the commandments of men. And that is why you were called a Pharisee, as Jesus said about the Pharisees …
“8 “‘This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me;
9 in vain do they worship me,
teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’” (Matt. 15:8-9)
As I’ve said, there’s a time and place for name-calling, when it is the truth. And in your case, it is the truth …
It’s not that I have any expert knowledge or understanding of scripture. It’s that you have almost none at all … yet you are pridefully certain you are right and I am wrong, despite being shown the scripture.
One of us is indeed prideful, especially as it pertains to humility in the sight of the Lord, and the desire to control others according to his own dictates without any appeal to scripture, and that one of us, my friend, is you …
Have I tried to compel anyone to follow the commandments of men? Have I tried to compel anyone to abide by my own standards? Nope … because I’m not that prideful …
It is impossible for a man to pridefully appeal to God’s word and to His standards. You should ponder this factoid …
I post what I post out of concern for what God’s word actually says …
If you disagree, that’s fine. Correct all you want, but if you do then use scripture. Because you are surely not my lord and master. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Master. So if you want to correct me, then you’ve got to use His word, His commandments, and His standards, and not your own. I’m not going to bow down to you, bud. I am not going to worship and serve you. Understand? … that ain’t happening
Did I not say that you are welcome to correct me if my interpretation of scripture is incorrect?
thank you for speaking out
Uhm, well, he ain’t lyin!