In a since-dissolved Instagram Live video, Pastors Judah Smith of Churchome, a hip-to-be-cool, celebrity-endorsed 10,000-member Seattle-based megachurch who recently cemented their theological obliviousness by bringing on Trinity-denying Modalist T. D. Jakes as a Board Member of their congregation, shared that while lust is a sin, masturbation is not, and is a tool that single and married people may use to ward off temptation.
Yeah, this makes no sense. Smith is arguing that when a man or woman is faced with the apparently overwhelming sexual urge to “engage someone and start crossing lines,” they should instead take a breather and masturbate so that they don’t “cross the line”.
But if they’re so amped up that they need to do this out of necessity, their thought life isn’t going to be clean while they’re masturbating. Masturbating without lusting/ sexual thoughts is a myth, especially if it’s necessitated by the struggle to not lust and cross lines.
In the context of married folk, it is also highly suspect, made all the more ridiculous by his own patterns. Smith never travels for more than a few days at a time away from his wife, and so if he needs to fantasize and masturbate that frequently in order to keep himself from “getting caught up with other women” while away, he probably shouldn’t be a pastor if that’s how little self-control he is able to muster.
Question: Is all types of sexy stuff before marriage bad
When we look at like the pastoral epistles, for instance, and all of the nuances that they dealt with within the dynamics of these ancient communities, we don’t see any time given to personal pleasure and masturbation
…But there is plenty of scripture on this idea of lust, and what is lust. Lust is using your imagination to think about having sex with someone you’re not in a covenant relationship with. And so I think that’s where the line is clear in Scripture, that when you start practicing lust, and yes, that can be in partner with masturbation, but there is a way to pleasure yourself for physical reasons and use it as a weapon to resist and fight the urge to actually engage someone and start crossing lines and only hurt you but hurt others.
And so I know for Chelsea and I, it may not be popular, I know, Dr. Dobson and there are many other teachers out there that teach different things, but we’ve definitely landed on this topic, that it can be very much a productive tool, and I’ll just be very candid. When I’m traveling away from Chelsea, I can fantasize about Chelsea and, and use masturbation as a gift to keep myself focused and not caught up with other women, or images or pornography.
h/t to Ruslan for the Vid
By way of a brief profile, the Smiths are about as seeker-sensitive and biblically compromised as they come. They live in a multi-million dollar home and have a penchant for Gucci luxury clothes, where a single outfit can cost upwards of $ 5000$. They count Justin Bieber as one of their members and let him occasionally lead worship, with theoerotic songs like Reckless Love being a mainstay.
He frequently tweets stupid, unbiblical things like this, clearly having no knowledge of Acts 10:38, 2 Corinthians 5:10, John 5:22, 27, and other scriptures.
He is, by all accounts, emblematic of the soypastors that breed effemininity and are a blight on the church today.
As for where the couple stands on abortion and LGBT issues, more unbiblical, cagey, waffling garbage abounds. In a long-form article in Marie Claire that is worth the read, writer Jennifer Swann quickly zeroes in on the ethos of the couple.
Regarding his 2005 comments on abortion, (where he preached against it) Judah says (through his publicist), ‘We have grown significantly in the past 15 years. I wouldn’t agree with my approach when I was a young pastor on many issues and understand that no life decision is easy. We hope to be a loving home for humanity, no matter what someone has experienced.’
When I ask Chelsea what she would say to a member of her congregation considering an abortion, she is quick to clarify that, unlike a priest, a pastor—at least at Churchome—isn’t meant to provide counsel. ‘We know what we’re good at, which is the Bible and Jesus and telling His story. And we know what we’re not good at. There are amazing trained professional psychologists and counselors [for that].’
That’s why, on the Churchome Global app, the Smiths titled a section of videos ‘Question and Response’ rather than ‘Question and Answer.’
Throughout the two days we spend together, Chelsea has few answers for me. So I call her up a few weeks later to ask more questions: What is Churchome’s position on LGBTQ members, for example? ‘Every individual is entitled to their own persuasion, and it’s not our job to persuade. It’s just our job to proclaim. They feel just as loved and welcome and a part of our community,’ Chelsea says.
Have Judah’s views on homosexuality changed since 2005? ‘We are a church who love and welcome people regardless of their beliefs or background,’ he says. Would Churchome be open to having a gay pastor? After a long pause, Chelsea says, ‘We are very much in the category of “We love everybody. God is for everybody. And God’s heart is for people.” So our hearts are for people, and that is where we land, absolutely.’