Christian artist TobyMac (real name Toby McKeehan) has said that he’s open about the possibility of reuniting with his former bandmates for a new DC Talk album, despite one of the members now being a pro-LGBTQ, pro-choice pagan.
After releasing five albums between 1989 and 1998, including the 1995 banger Jesus Freak, the band announced in 2000 that they were taking a break to pursue individual projects. They’ve come together for a few shows since going on hiatus, notably some cruise line reunion shows in 2017 and 2019, but nothing since Max came out as an ex-vangelical in 2021.
Now, in a new interview, when pressed over whether or not DC Talk would ever get back together to launch a new full-length DC Talk studio album, McKeehan told Billboard that he was not opposed to the prospect and that it’s not a “closed door.”
“I don’t know. Sometimes I’ll write a song that sounds more like DC Talk than it sounds like me and I’ll just kind of hold it. So there are a few of those sitting there. Our friend Ryan Tedder sent us a song that he felt like sounded like DC Talk, which we still have sitting there — and it’s amazing, because he wrote it. I don’t know the answer to that [reunion] question. I know that I’m not opposed to it; obviously I asked Michael and Kevin to be on this song, so it’s not a closed door for me.”
Last year, Ex-‘Jesus Freak’ Kevin Max announced on social media that he considers himself to be an “exvangelical” and that he has been “deconstructing” his faith for years, for all intents and purposes revealing himself to have become a progressive pagan who has renounced orthodox Christianity and now holds to some weird form of belief in the “Universal Christ”.
Max, 53, who is best known as one-third of the trio DC Talk, has spent the last year taking potshots at “narrow-minded-judgmental evangelicals” while lauding his leftist views.
Despite being completely apostate, Max sorta/ kinda insisted that he was “pro-life with exceptions” – which was basically the last remaining shred of morality left in him.
He’s not torn anymore. That too seems to have to been gone by the wayside, after writing out on Instagram:
These Tweets were liked by a few people that we know, such as the apostate Derek Webb, formerly of Caedmon’s Call, and Laura Hoopes, the (she/her) wife of Matt Hoopes, the founder of Relient K who has recently come out as full LGBTQ and in which the band itself has come out as super-gay.
Of course, the whole point is that the body inside the woman’s body is not her body. Given how much he has deconstructed over the years, in the process of turning his mind over to Satan, it’s clear his mind is darkened and he hates the image of God- making the unborn a natural casualty of his cruelty.
A trailer for The Jesus Music has just dropped; a Lionsgate documentary that delves into the roots and origins of Contemporary Christian Music.
Released by the Erwin Breothers, who directed movies such as “I Can Only Imagine’, ‘I still Believe’, and ‘Woodland’, “This documentary reveals Jesus Music’s untold story – from its humble beginnings at the Calvary Chapel in Costa Mesa, California through its transformation into the multi-billion-dollar industry of Christian Contemporary Music today.”
The film features interviews with a host of Christian musicians, including Amy Grant, Michael W. Smith, Kevin Max, Trey Pearson, TobyMac, Kirk Franklin, Lauren Daigle, Lecrae, For King & Country, Bill Reeves, Chris Tomlin, Bill Gaither, and others.
While we can’t speak for everyone to determine the extent of their beliefs, about a third of the artists featured have either come out in support of homosexuality and same-sex marriage or are deeply compromised and confused on the issue, offering a glimpse into the direction things are headed.
Lauren Daigle. In 2018 when Ellen asked Daigle if she believed homosexuality was a sin, she replied
“I can’t say one way or the other, I’m not God. When people ask questions like that, I just say, ‘Read the Bible and find out for yourself. And when you find out let me know because I’m learning too.”
Trey Pearson. Pearson came out as a homosexual in 2016, telling fans in a letter:
“To make an extremely long story short, I have come to be able to admit to myself, and to my family, that I am gay.”
Amy Grant. Grant has had a very loud and vocal LGBTQ fanbase for years. A few days ago she shared her affirmation with Proud Radio host Hunter Kelly, who himself is gay, telling him she affirmed him as he was, much to the joy of gay twitter, who celebrated the words. She said:
“Who loves us more than the one who made us? None of us are a surprise to God. Nothing about who we are or what we’ve done. That’s why, to me, it’s so important to set a welcome table. Because I was invited to a table where someone said ‘don’t be afraid, you’re loved.’ …Gay. Straight. It does not matter. It doesn’t matter how we behave. It doesn’t matter how we’re wired. We’re all our best selves when we believe to our core, ‘I’m loved.’ And then our creativity flourishes. We’re like, ‘I’m gonna arrange flowers on your table and my table.’ When we’re loved, we’re brave enough to say yes to every good impulse that comes to us.”:
Kevin Max. Max wrote on his Twitter feed a few months ago that he was “Pro-Love, Pro-LGBTQIA”
Kirk Franklin. Franklin has apologized multiple times for people expressing ‘homophobia’ when explaining what the bible says, saying:
“The Bible is not a book that’s an attack on gay people. It’s not a book written to attack gay people. It is horrible that we have made it where the Bible is a homophobic manual. That’s not what the Bible is. I mean you want to talk about things that God gets at…pride and jealousy and envy and arrogance.’
And then in 2018 and 2021with the Breakfast Club:
“All Scripture is God-breathed … but what we have to understand also is that the Canon of Scripture still is coming from a place of a loving God. God is not built to hate gay people. The Bible is not a manual on how to hate gay people.”
…It’s that you have some LGBTQIA+ people that make decisions- like I have some close gay friends who make decisions based on their interpretation of the Bible, and they live out their lives based on whether celibacy, or whatever they choose to do, and they should have the right to do that… A lot of people that maybe profess Christianity, they have views that are not even bibliocentric. It’s their personal views that they do not understand, sometimes maybe the biology of homosexuality, and so they want to find a scripture to try to justify their own homophobic views.”
Lecrae:. In a 2020 interview with DJ Vlad, the host pressed Lecrae on his opinion of Chick-Fil-A President Dan Cathy making statements that are pro-family and against homosexuality, wanting to know if he agrees with them.
Lecrae, clearly not wanting to discuss any of this, put on some comically clueless facial expressions and awkwardly asking Vlad “Does he still stand by that today?” Vlad confirms he has and asks what Lecrae would do if his son came out as gay, and he replied, looking uncomfortable as all get out:
“My thing is like this, I don’t… like… my brother’s gay..you know what I’m saying? And I don’t…I don’t condemn him. I don’t look down on him for him being attracted to [the same sex]. I don’t condemn him, you know what I’m saying? Like, if anything we will dialogue so that I can have a better understanding. Cuz’ I don’t profess to be like ‘I got this all figured out, and I know the way this should be.’ Like, I’m trying to read the bible, I’m trying to have conversations with people, and I’m trying to understand, you know the perspective, you know what I’m saying?
And I feel like anybody who wants to come at a person negatively, like, if you were a Christian and you came at me negatively, then it’s like you’re not giving me the grace and the space to be a learner. You know what I mean? Help me, you know, give me the grace and space to learn, and that’s how we move forward…
You can point something out to me and say ‘hey, this is what it says, Lecrae. You should know better, you should know this.’ Well, you know, give me the grace and the space to take my time and to understand the perspective on it and to understand why these people think this way and like, that’s the perspective I have. I’m more of a learner and I give people the grace and the space as I’m processing and as I’m learning and just walk with people through that, you know what I mean? Just be a life-long learner, man.
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1 John 2:19
Ex-‘Jesus Freak’ Kevin Max has announced on social media that he considers himself to be an “exvangelical” and that that he has been “deconstructing” his faith for years, for all intents and purposes revealing himself to have become a progressive pagan who has renounced orthodox Christianity and now holds to some weird form of belief in the “Universal Christ”.
Max, 53, who is best known as one-third of the trio DC Talk, has spent the last year taking potshots at “narrow minded-judgmental evangelicals” and got the ball rolling to an even greater degree on Twitter when he said:
He followed it up with a few more points of clarification, writing:
Lest there was any doubt, the singer, whose Twitter bio describes himself as a “Leftist” Mystic” and “Liberal”, also came out as Pro-LGBTQIA and in a later tweet came out as pro-choice (“Prolife with exceptions”)
He further posted this song lyric from a recent album, explaining that it encapsulates where is he is right now spiritually. He says he still “believes in Jesus” but it’s pretty evident it’s a deity of his own making, according to the lusts of his flesh, with his talk of the “glowing universal Christ.’
In an interview with Gabriel Jones, Kevin also explains that he no longer believes that the bible is literal or accurate or true, telling him:
“I believe in a God of the universe, and I believe that He can hear me. And that, in itself, is just plain kind of crazy. But if I believe that, then I truly believe that He cares about my progression and asking questions and wanting to know what is real and what isn’t real…I don’t think the God that I believe in is going to just all of a sudden ignore me because I don’t believe every single thing that’s written down somewhere.”
Now is about as good a time as any to pray that in His providence, God saves him.
