Scott B. Rae is Dean of Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics at Talbot School of Theology, Biola University, and Chair of the Department of Philosophy at Talbot.
A noted ethicist, he is also the co-host of the Thinking Biblically podcast and author of a dozen books include Moral Choices: An Introduction to Ethics, Business for the Common Good, and Beyond Integrity: A Judeo-Christian Approach to Business Ethics.
Rae holds to a biblical view of marriage and has a history of affirming that homosexuality is a sin. Yet in recently unearthed audio, Rae explains that he would attend the gay wedding of his relatives so as not to alienate them.
He also states that were he a Christian baker, not only would he bake a wedding cake for a gay couple, but he would make it twice as good and charge them half the price.
See I think we need to change, you know, we we’ve always had this maxim for a long time: “Love the sinner, hate the sin.” And I would change that. I would just say “you love the person. Period”
That’s why, for example, just for myself, you may disagree with me on this, but if my brother or one of my nephews was gay and asked me to attend his wedding, I would.
Because he would certainly already know my views on the subject. And my staying home, the only thing that would gain is it would further alienate him, somebody I’m trying deeply to stay connected to. My staying home would not send him a message that he doesn’t already have from me.”
Turning to the issue of cakes, he continues:
And you know, again, you may disagree with me on this too. But if I were those bakers, I’d have baked the cake. And I probably would have baked them twice as good a one and charge them half the price. Because I (unintelligible). You may see that differently.
When the person he is speaking to tells him that, as a photographer, he couldn’t shoot a gay wedding on account of the falseness of it, Rae responds:
I guess my view of that is that is a cake is a cake. The only thing calling it a wedding cake gives you the freedom to is to charge a lot more money for it. You may see that differently.
LEAKED AUDIO: Biola University professor and co-host of the “Thinking Biblically” podcast Scott Rae says he would TOTALLY attend sodomite weddings & insists that Christian bakery owner Jack Phillips should have baked the gay-wedding cake twice as big and charged half as much! 🤔 pic.twitter.com/cymbOWGTxr
— Seth Gruber (@sgruber91) January 30, 2026























