OK Senator Dusty Deevers Spars With Freedom From Religious Foundation Over Bill To Ban Pornography
Christian Pastor and Oklahoma State Senator Dusty Deevers has been sparring with the Freedom from Religion Foundation (FRFR) on social media regarding a bill he recently introduced to penalize pornographers.
Deevers, who pastors Grace Reformed Baptist Church in Elgin and became a State Senator in 2023, previously filed a bill to strengthen marriage laws and make divorce more difficult in Oklahoma.
Another bill, SB593, aims to increase penalties for child pornography and prohibit pornography in the state. Defending his bill, Deevers initially wrote on X:
This prompted FRFR, a “national 501 (c)(3) non-profit with nearly 40,000 nonreligious members working to keep state and church separate” to retort:
Deevers previously described pornography as “both degenerate material and a highly addictive drug. It ruins marriages, ruins lives, destroys innocence, warps young people’s perception of the opposite sex, turns women into objects, turns men into objects, degrades human dignity, and corrodes the moral fabric of society. Any decent society will stand against this plague with the full weight of the law.” He justified his legislation with a lengthy X thread, writing:
Pornography is not speech. Prostitution is a crime, and rightly so. But some would have us believe that if you set up a camera, film it, and publish it on the internet for thousands of minors to see, magically it becomes “protected expression.” This is obviously absurd.
Thankfully, the Common Law and SCOTUS precedent is more grounded. In Barnes v. Glen Theatre (1991), the Court upheld bans on public nudity at clubs. Justice Rehnquist noted that public indecency—including nudity—was a criminal offense at common law.
The Founders banned public indecency, and so can we. And if nudity can be banned behind closed doors in a club, it can absolutely be banned on the internet which is even more publicly accessible.
More recently, in Miller, SCOTUS laid out when content is obscene and therefore can be banned.
1. Appeals to prurient interest.
2. Is patently offensive according to state law or community standards.
3. Lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
Modern pornography clearly checks box 1 and box 3. The only thing missing? Box 2—a state law that defines and prohibits obscene content according to the Miller test. That’s why I filed SB593.
Porn advocates (imagine publicly identifying yourself as a porn advocate) point to Reno v. ACLU (1997). But in Reno, the court struck down the CDA because it banned content that was not just “obscene”, but also “indecent”—a term they said was too vague to be enforceable.
Further, Reno was partially based on the assertion that internet is not as invasive as radio and TV. How is that assessment holding up?
The factual findings in Reno have been proven wrong. We can write laws tailored to the Miller Test and we can win in the courts.
The Founders didn’t fight a revolution to protect degenerate obscenity. Most of us, even among those of us who want to abolish pornography, have views that are probably moderate compared to theirs.
I am very thankful for @AGJamesUthmeier’s pursuit of this issue. His team is investigating whether porn sites are adhering to FL law requiring age verification checks and finding that they are as easy to pass through as the border was under Biden. These issues need to be taken into court and into the court of public opinion. I encourage AG Uthmeier and his team lean into these arguments that porn is not free speech wherever possible.
Last year, Deevers unveiled landmark legislation that would abolish abortion in his state, stop no-fault divorce, establish that the penalty for a willful false accusation is whatever the penalty is for the crime you falsely accused someone of is, and ban pornography statewide, among others.
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All law has a moral basis. All law legislates some form of “purity”. Which means either FFRF are nothing but total anarchists, or they themselves want to legislate their own version of “purity” on everyone else, except that theirs is baseless and relativist. Their logic is bad, and they are warping the 1st Amendment to mean just about the opposite of what it originally meant in the federalist system, where that amendment only limited the federal government from establishing religion at the federal level.
They say “you can’t legislate morality”. Yet the reality is exactly the opposite. You can’t not legislate morality. The only question is which morality.
i.e., their view of an ideal society would include pornography. And so, they are intent on legislating that “purity” on everyone else. Which is the inevitable result of baseless moral relativism.
Deevers is a Leftist pretending to be right wing. What he wants to do is ban a massive majority of young men from voting. Any young man who ever sent a dick pic to his girlfriend will be busted in Oklahoma by this law, branded a felon, and their voting rights taken away. Resulting in only women being able to vote in Oklahoma, insuring a Leftist landslide and that abortion is brought back and drag shows mandated.
If Deevers wasn’t a complete moron then this law would be more limited, to only attack pron sites, and to double or triple the fines when they are owned by Jews.
That’s not how laws work. You can’t be charge with a crime based on a law that didn’t yet exist. But you already knew that.
The far right isn’t much different than the far left.
You’re a good example of it, anon. You’re the other side of the same woke coin. Always blaming somebody else because your life isn’t perfect.
Your logic is no different than those who say abortion should be legal because women are going to murder their babies anyhow. The end of your reasoning is also either anarchy, or your baseless relativism. You are no different than FFRF.
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