Babylon Bee Head To Debate Abortion Abolitionist After Getting Stung by Consistent Arguments
The Babylon Bee’s Managing Editor, Joel Berry, announced that he’ll soon be participating in a public debate with an Abortion Abolitionist, defending the pro-life position and explaining why it’s heartless and intolerably cruel to punish women who kill their three-year-olds in the bathtub kill their three-month-old babies in the womb with a scalpel.
Berry has drawn the ire of abortion abolitionists over the last few days, lobbing a couple of insults their way and seemingly lumping the whole movement as rotten to the core.
Though their disagreements will be adjudicated and discussed on the Abolitionist Rising Podcast in January, much of their disagreement appears to stem from the insistence by abolitionists that children in the womb deserve equal protection under the law and that women who kill their babies, whether in the womb or three years out of the women, should be punished for murder. They say having clear, understood, well-defined consequences for murder that are made plain to all will send the message that it actually is murder and will be treated as such.
The notion of punishing women for their crimes is something Berry finds intolerable, viewing the women as victims of coercion and societal conditioning, parroting the same arguments that SBC and ERLC leaders have given when seeking to crush abolitionist legislation.
It’s overtly emotional argumentation from Berry, who has previously said that he wants to make abortion a felony and see it outlawed, but that the hand of justice should primarily be applied towards the abortionist, not the woman herself, at least until the laws and expectations are more culturally embedded. He has previously posited that when it comes to the women doing the baby-butchering, he “understands the need to be consistent” without ever elaborating on how that should play out and what, if any, punishment and consequences should look like.
This is a debate we are very much looking forward to.
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So, I’m much more of a theonomist than the next guy, but I think that Joel is absolutely in the right here, and all of his criticisms of the lack of grace on the other side are more than justified. Jesus let the woman caught in the act of adultery go with only a warning to ‘sin no more’, but do you think He would have done that if the trial had been conducted according to the law (with two or more witnesses, the man involved also standing trial, and the whole community actually walking in faith and not organized solely for the purpose of trapping Him)? I don’t think so. I think both man and woman would have been rightly condemned and put to death in that case. So Joel’s position is essentially that. Outlaw abortion, punish severely those who make their living doing this evil, and show grace to those who are often being evilly used and manipulated. There will be a time and a place for a more wholistic approach to this stuff as everything else falls into place.
But if you really want to be gung ho, just remember that the laws’ commands to put people to death for such things were not given to state governments, but to normal people. So if you’re so zealous, just go perform the execution yourself. Why wait on the state to back you up? That’s not there in God’s law. Yeah. That’s what I thought…Sissies…