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Veggie Tales Creator Releases Series Ft. Woke Xtians Complaining About Being Judged

VeggieTales creator and Holy Post podcast host Phil Vischer has gotten beat up on social media over the last few days, and with good reason. The shots have been coming after he criticized a conservative TV network for not featuring LBGTQ characters in films,  compared Christians who oppose legal same-sex marriage to ‘confederate theologians’, and refuses to publicly condemn same-sex marriage, all the while doing so in a smarmy voice that would make even Andy Stanley jealous.

This is on top of knocking creationists as a bunch of dummies, crediting his white privilege for the success of his show, claiming he didn’t know there were such things black Christians until he was an adult, getting upset at Christians for opposing LGBTQ, and most recently coming out as pro-choice.

Now, the Holy Post has released a trailer for a series featuring folks like Lecrae, Kristen Kobes Du Mez, Jemar Tisby, and Russell Moore explaining why they’re still Christians despite being mistreated and ‘unfairly’ criticized for their actions and beliefs by mean and judgy Christians.

They can complain all they want, but each of them holds significantly compromised beliefs on all sorts of matters. For example, Jemar Tisby’s Black Christian Collective organization is run by an openly pro-choice, pro-LGBTQ racist, and Tisby himself platformed and praised an openly pro-choice, pro-LGBTQ, queer universalist pastrix who denies the literal second coming of Christ because “the second coming of Christ is you and me.” 

Jesus and John Wayne author Kristin Kobes Du Mez is gay-affirming and has made some statements suggesting she’s pro-choice and thinks abortion should have remained legal, arguing that appointing Supreme Court justices with the intent to overturn Roe V. Wade was a “ruthless display of power” and that she wishes that Christians didn’t take such an immovable unshakable hard line against abortion.

Of course, Vischer would never ask them those questions.

He’d never ask Du Mez “Do you think some of the heat coming your way is because you support same-sex marriage and lamented that overturning Roe will radicalize evangelicals further? Can you see maybe see how some of them might not like that?”

He’d never asked Tisby “Are people justified ragging on you when your organizational head is advising black women not to enter interracial relationships with white people or when she says she’s concerned about the number of black ‘coons’ running for political office because white people are ‘weaponizing’ them?”

If these are the sort of people that Vischer wants us to sympathize with or feel bad for warning against, tugging at the heartstrings for creating lines in the sand, then he’s going to be very, very disappointed.

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Holy Post Podcast Says Jesus’ Resurrected Body Was a ‘Disabled Body’ + Wheelchairs in Heaven?

“(In terms of looking at the bible from a different angle)…I think a few ways to do that with disability in Scripture is to think about God as disabled. Both Daniel and Ezekiel describe God’s throne as a chair with wheels, and that sounds a lot like a wheelchair to me. Jesus’s body after resurrection is the only example that we have of that imperishable form and it’s disabled. It has horrific scars. And then the Spirit, Paul tells us, in a sense, groans too deep to utter, which, you know, might be similar to the way that folks who are non-speaking communicate. So really inviting people to think about not just God as disabled, but what some of these passages with our imagination and fueled by the creativity that we have been given, might mean for the disability community.” Dr. Amy Kenny. A recent interview:“

In a recent episode of the Holy Post Podcast, guest Dr. Amy Kenny proffered up a novel interpretation of the relationship between deity and disability, claiming that Jesus’s resurrected body is ‘disabled.’

Kenny, whose she/her personal pronouns are in her bio, is a Shakespeare scholar and lecturer at the University of California. She is also the author of the book My Body is Not a Prayer Request: Disability Justice in the Church, whose thesis is that disabilities are a reflection of God’s image and, therefore, should be celebrated and shepherded. They are not something that requires prayer or healing but rather instead need gracious accommodation.

This view of disability creates more than a few idiosyncratic beliefs. Throughout her writings and interviews, she repeatedly declares that God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are disabled in some manner. Kenny further speculates that disabilities may very likely still exist in heaven: such as lameness, blindness, and deafness.

In her book, she offers the possibility that God may communicate with mute people in heaven with ASL (American Sign Language) and that the disabled may be navigating heaven in their wheelchairs, never able to walk. She doesn’t say to what degree this theology translates to mental disabilities compared to physical ones, and whether or not we ought to pray for those disabled by traumatic brain injuries or schizophrenia, or whether or not persons with Down Syndrome or severe mental impairment will likewise remain that way in heaven, or whether they will be healed.

Speaking to Kaitlyn Sheiss, she elaborates on why she claims that Jesus was disabled:

I get a lot of pushback on this because it makes people very uncomfortable and as you say, and to me that reveals that discomfort with disability more than anything else.

Jesus’ resurrected body is disabled. He says to Thomas, ‘put your hand in my side, touch my scars’ see them, blessed are you who have seen but blessed are those who have not seen and believed. And as disabled people, we know that all too well; people touching us without our consent, people poking and prodding us, people wanting to examine our bodies for proof, and not believing and gaslighting when a story is told, as it is here with the women sharing that they have seen the resurrected Christ and Thomas saying ‘nope’.

And this, I think it’s also really important, because we say that we believe that Jesus has defeated the dominions of darkness and defeated death itself, and that death has no sting, but it was a whoopsie that he came back disabled? I mean, that doesn’t make sense.

So I think that what we are uncomfortable with is the idea that the risen Christ would choose a disabled form. And what that reveals to me is that it gives me the freedom and hopefully it liberates us all, because it makes me realize yet again that my redemption and the marks of my healing are not things to be hidden or erased or eradicated. My disability isn’t something to be ashamed of, because it emulates the risen Christ.

And that disabled body is the mark of all of our healing.

Bonus. Kenny has previous said that the church must become a ‘crip space’ where it “puts those who are most marginalized at the center and follows their lead. So folks who are queer, Black, disabled people.” This includes things from making the washroom wheelchair accessible to “noticing that the language of the songs or the sermon is ableist and changing those words.” such as “Hear ye, ye dumb, ye deaf, crazy, ye dumb, I once was blind, but now I see.” She further notes:

There’s that Hillsong song that says there’s no darkness, no sick, no lame in heaven because streets are made of gold and will finally be healed and whole. You know, all of those are assuming this eradication of disabled people, which is eugenics, and saying that that’s holy, or that that is heaven somehow.

We discuss this ridiculousness on a recent episode of Protestia Tonight:

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Holy Post Podcast Suggests Outlawing Abortion Doesn’t Save Lives + ‘You’re Not Really Pro-Life’

Veggie Tales creator Phil Vischer, the man who swears he’s not progressive despite knocking creationists as a bunch of dummies, crediting his white privilege for the success of his show, arguing that liberals and Democrats are the real pro-lifers who have been reducing abortion, claiming he didn’t know there were such things black Christians until he was an adult, thumbing his nose at “Cracker Barrel Christians,” and most recently getting upset at Christians for opposing LGBTQ, continues to bounce ideas off show host Skye Jethani, repeating the old tropes of ‘You’re not really pro-life unless…” while suggesting outlawing abortion would have next to no impact on the number of babies being killed. 

It’s been a few weeks now, right? It’s been a few weeks since we said, ‘Hey, Roe v. Wade is no more’. And there was a whole lot immediately of, ‘and now comes the real work of supporting women and children’. And I’m looking for what we’re proposing to do that. And maybe I’m not looking in the right places, but I’m not seeing any proposals.” (Jethani: “I’m shocked. I’m shocked, I tell you.”)

Oh, come on, man. Instead, what I’m seeing is ‘how do we prevent interstate travel to access abortions? How do we prevent interstate shipment of morning after pills or abortifacients? How do we get abortion outlawed on a national level through legislation?’

So I’m just wondering, okay, when? When do we get to the point of helping the women and the children? When is that?

Vischer and his progressive nuancebros and brosettes are missing the memo that outlawing abortion nationally or cutting off the supply or birth control pill through legislation will necessarily reduce abortions and help children, especially the hundreds of thousands still being murdered by those means. In fact, this helps them the most. Why is Vischer acting like the only babies worth helping are the ones already born and saved, rather than not-yet-born and needing to be saved? Jethani piles on:

“Well, it’s exposing what we’ve talked about before on this topic, which I think not all, but a lot of the conservative, so-called pro-life movement has been driven by symbolism, rather than actually saving lives. Because if it was really all about saving lives, a lot of these things would have been enacted already. Paid family leave, health care, Medicaid expansion, those kinds of things. But it’s really been about symbolism, which is as a conservative Christian in America, I don’t want a law that says it’s okay to end a pregnancy. Because that feels morally icky to me, and I don’t want to be associated with it.

It’s such soft language. A law that says it’s okay to murder millions of babies a year only “feels morally icky.” Way to blow up the conversation with righteous rage and some real conviction there. Morally icky. Would Jethani describe a 19th-century slavery laws as “morally icky?” The right to buy, sell, torture, beat, rape and kill black folk, as property…. as “feeling morally icky” and giving Jethani a bad feeling in his tummy and a sad sensation in his heart? Where’s the lightning and lament?! He concludes by again reiterating that outlawing abortion does nothing, and that those prioritizing the battle for the about to die over the travails of the already living are done in bad faith, and whose efforts mean nothing.

So now that we’ve got that law off the book, and maybe we act even further to outlaw it in places other than my own state, it makes me feel morally better. But it doesn’t do anything to actually help these women, help these kids, reduce the number of abortions.

So this is exposing what’s really going on, what’s the motivation. Is it symbolic, or is it about saving lives? For different people, it will be answered differently, but I think if you don’t see these other things enacted, it’s just more evidence that an awful lot of folks, it’s just symbolic, and they wanted the law off the books. That’s what it was about.”