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PCA’s Greg Johnson Suggests ‘Christian’ Gay Couples can Live Together, so Long as They “Desexualize” the Marriage

A pastor in the Presbyterian Church of America (PCA) has seemed to endorse the notion of civil unions for gay couples who become saved, saying that he wouldn’t encourage them to break the marriage apart but rather simply encourage the couple to stop having sex with each other.

Greg Johnson is the most controversial figure within the conservative PCA, gaining publicity in 2018 when he hosted and defended the abomination that is Revoice. (See notes below) Since then, he’s been staunchly opposed Overture 15, a proposed amendment to the denomination’s Book of Church Order designed to combat Revoice’s wreckage and make the denomination more biblically faithful with a purer sexual ethic.

His church is presently under investigation by their Presbytery after one of their ministries hosted a lurid concert event featuring filthy trans performers. The church is upset that anyone is questioning this ministry or choice of event, complaining that the possibility of being forbidden to let similar events occur will negatively impact their ministry to the pagans.

As a result of being occasionally taken to task by denominational leaders who have by and large utterly failed to deal with him and his theological shenanigans much sooner, and are now (poorly) dealing with the consequences of gay chickens that have come home to roost, Johnson’s church is intending to leave the PCA as soon as they can, but not without chumming the waters while he prepares to get going.

Speaking on the Apologia – Centrum för Kisten Apologetik channel on October 27 2022.

Question: It seems ok to recommend single gays to stay single, but what about gay people that are already in relationships- may be married and have kids? What should the church recommend to them?

Yeah, if the gay couple with a family you know, came to Jesus in my church, my goal would not to be to break them apart. (Unintelligible) I think in discipleship, really, the goal would be to desexualize the relationship, because the love they have for one another is not the problem. 

You know, that’s not sinful. The commitment they have to one another is not sin. You know, it’s sexualization of that. And so, in all honesty, with a lot of gay couples, you know, when they’ve been together for a number of years, they’re not very sexually active. Some are, but a lot aren’t. 

You know, I know one guy told me that, you know, after the first 10 years of sex just got boring. And so his partner, the most they ever do is snuggle in front of the television, but, they’re still there for each other. And so, that would be my direction in that kind of situation.

Johnson does not want to break them apart, because he believes the power of the Holy Spirit to sanctify gay people, “such were some of you, but you were washed,” is a fantasy. He believes homosexuals are an untouchable class whose sexuality cannot be redeemed and that even God doesn’t have the power to straighten their bent orientations. 

Rather than what would be an appropriate direction to take take the situation in- the couple publicly renounces their marriage, stop living together, get in counselling, get discipled, and stay single or get married to someone of the opposite sex- Johnson, the seeming expert on how frequently gay people engage in their perverse approximation of sexual intercourse, offers only that he’d seek to “desexualize” the relationship but not break them apart. This is trash advice.

Furthermore, Johnson says that the love they have is not the problem- but it is! Because it isn’t love, it is a sin. Any feeling/ sensation/ emotion/ affection that a man or a woman has for the same sex that is beyond strong platonic affection is vile and a corruption of God’s intentions.

Johnson doesn’t even believe that gay people cuddling and snuggling is a sin to be discouraged. So long as the couple agrees to stop bumping together their incompatible bits, that’s about the extent of what they must change about their situation after coming to Christ.

Johnson’s response betrays how truly compromised he is, and is an indictment on the Missouri Presbytery for letting it get this far.

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PCA Leader Says Pastors Should Tell More Stories about Gay People From the Pulpit To Be More Loving

Weeks after Pastor Greg Johnson and the elders of Memorial Church in St Louis, Mo, announced their intentions to leave the conservative Presbyterian Church of America, the results of finding that they can no longer support sound doctrine and instead want the freedom to preach their particularly noxious brand of subversive sexual theology, Johnson explains that one of the best ways to make gay people in our congregants know we care about them is to preach more positive illustrations about homosexuals from the pulpit, using illustrations that intentionally note people’s sexual deviancy and sexual sin, even if it’s not relevant to the story.

Speaking to Martin Helgessen on the to the Apologia – Centrum för Kisten Apologetik channel on October 27 2022:

Question: What do you think we should do at our church to make LGBTQ people know that we care about them

Is homosexuality only discussed in the context of discussing everybody else’s sins? You know, because you don’t ever want to pick on- you don’t ever want to preach on one sin that the whole congregation doesn’t experience and make one or two people who do feel horrible.

But it’s things like that that you can do, making sure that positive stories of gay people make it into the pulpit. You know, if you’ve preached with illustrations, you know, there’s one story that I’ve been telling for years.

I had a very small little Honda Civic in the late 1980s, and we had a horrific snowstorm…so I was trying to get out of my alleyway to get to school, grad school, and my car had gotten stuck in the snow, so that my wheels were spinning, but they weren’t touching the ground anymore. And I remember just thinking, ‘this is horrible. How am I going to get out of here?’ Like, ‘how long will it take for snow to melt under me? Will that even happen?’

He continues:

And then a Rolls Royce Silver Cloud pulls up, something from the 1930s, this expensive antique car and out pop three gay men. And two of them have shovels, and the other one has a top hat and a big fur coat.. and he tells his friends to dig me out. And meanwhile he’s talking to me he’s like, ‘so what do you do? Are you a student?’ Like, yeah, I’m a student. ‘What do you study?’ Historical theology.

But the point is, the Good Samaritan was the gay man who, in a snowstorm, got out his 5000 pound Rolls Royce and two of his buddies to drive around shoveling theology student’s cars out of ditches, you know? Who’s the Christ figure? It’s this gay guy.

Tell stories from the pulpit like that. I have probably a dozen or more stories like that in my book. Talk about CS Lewis and his gay best friend Arthur, you know, and their friendship as a model of what friendship could be. You know, there’s stories to be told. And also just make sure that there would never be anything said up front that would make someone feel targeted. Stay out of politics.

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PCA Pastor, Revoice Advocate Greg Johnson to Leave Denomination

Pastor Greg Johnson and the elders of Memorial Church in St Louis, Mo, have announced their intentions to leave the conservative Presbyterian Church of America after finding that they can no longer support sound doctrine, according to the letter sent to congregants, which reads in part:

After fifteen months spent fasting, praying, waiting, consulting and listening, now write to call a meeting of the congregation for 5:30–6:30 p.m. Friday, November 18, 2022, in the Auditorium for the purpose of deciding on matters pertaining to denominational alignment. We are recommending the congregation vote to withdraw from the Presbyterian Church in America 

Johnson, an open homosexual, is perhaps the most controversial figure within the denomination, gaining publicity in 2018 when he hosted and defended the abomination that is Revoice. (See notes below) Since then, he’s been staunchly opposed Overture 15, a proposed amendment to the denomination’s Book of Church Order that is designed to combat the wreckage of Revoice and make the denomination more biblically faithful with a purer sexual ethic.

The authors of this amendment argue that ministers of the gospel are to be above reproach in their Christian character and self-conception. They say a pastor is disqualified from serving in ordained office in the PCA if that man identifies himself in terms associated with the LGBTQ+ movement or has a Gay self-conception.

“Men who describe themselves as homosexual, even those who describe themselves as homosexual and claim to practice celibacy by refraining from homosexual conduct, are disqualified from holding office in the Presbyterian Church in America.”

Johnson hates this, and his repeated and public condemnation has been tearing at the denomination’s seams. We hate that he hates this, and believe that any man who makes his sexuality part of his identity and affirms he’ll always struggle with same-sex attraction; denying the efficacy of a new heart upon one’s sexuality and denying that “such were some of you” is the normative expectation for Christians who are being sanctified by Christ, is not qualified to be pastor.

Not only is Johnson and Memorial continually castigated for their role in Revoice, but the church is presently under investigation by their Presbytery after one of their ministries hosted a lurid concert event featuring filthy trans performers. The church is upset that anyone is questioning this ministry or choice of event, complaining that the possibility of being forbidden to let similar events take place will negatively impact their ministry to the pagans.

Rather than let everything play out, the church wants to leave as soon as they can, before Johnson goes to a church trial, in order to avoid bad optics from whatever denomination they join in the future:

We have now learned that, yes, once a court of the church (whether local Missouri Presbytery, denominational supreme court or General Assembly) takes a case, thereby entering into judicial process, the pastor involved must see the case through unless another denomination receives him into it. Other denominations can be hesitant to receive a pastor under such circumstances, and would likely require a supermajority vote to receive him. This could hold us all up.

…Other possible cases against our pastors are also developing. The flow of these baseless judicial attacks is unlikely to slow down. We are being deliberately targeted. To protect our pastors—and to keep our presbytery from having to do multiple formal investigations of baseless accusations—we therefore think it wise to take this next step in realignment sooner rather than later.

They conclude by saying:

Our intention has been to bathe this process with prayer and with love. We believe this decision to be the most loving option for Memorial, for same-sex oriented believers, for our pastors and, yes, for the PCA itself.

We hope that Memorial’s withdrawal from the PCA will strengthen the hands of our friends within the denomination. As their opponents have capitalized on the “wedge issue” they found in knowing the PCA had a celibate same-sex oriented pastor, we can now remove Memorial from that equation. Critics will have to find some other cause with which to rally their troops. Lord willing, that will help our friends in the denomination as they work hard to once again take leadership to ground the denomination in a humble, winsome and missiological grace.

For more on Revoice:
Revoice Conference is Bringing Back the Roman Catholic Lesbian Who Praised X-Rated Gay BDSM Film
Revoice Introduces ‘Semi-Celibate Throuple’ to Christendom
So who are all the She/Her, They/Them, and He/Hims Speaking at Revoice?
Revoice Founder Insists Christians Repent Of Signing Nashville Statement on Sexual Ethics
Revoice President says Being Pro-Life Means Being Pro-Trans
‘Revoice’ Founder Calls Own Denomination ‘Rampantly Homophobic’ for Rejecting LGBTQ Clergy
Revoice Leaders Promoting “Homosexuality is a Blessing” Nonsense

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Greg Johnson’s PCA Church Hosts Lurid Concert Event Featuring Nasty Trans Performers

As Greg Johnson’s Memorial Presbyterian Church in Saint Louis, Mo pursues leaving the PCA, they find themselves under investigation by their Presbytery after hosting a disturbing concert event. 

‘Pastor’ Johnson is an outspoken supporter of the Revoice conference, having hosted the notorious event in the past. He’s and has been a vocal opponent of Overture 15, a progressive Presbyterian bugaboo which squarely takes aim at pastors who identify themselves as being a ‘gay Christian’ or ‘same-sex attracted’ and yet still aspire to the office of the pastorate, of which Johnson is. (The Overture, which is on its way into becoming a part of the denomination’s Book of Church Order, says that ministers of the gospel must be above reproach in their Christian character and self-conception and would disqualify any man from serving in ordained office in the PCA if that man identifies himself in terms associated with the LGBTQ+ movement or has a Gay self-conception.”)

Johnson’s church hosted The Sept 2nd, 2022 event ‘Celestial Bodies’ as part of their The Chapel (Sanctuary for the Arts) ministry, whose purpose is to offer a “practical, real-life way that we can support local artists and manifest the Welcome of Jesus through our hospitality and through our service.”

Part of the way the church loves people is by giving each concert guests free booze and supplying the barkeepers.

Because they seemingly have no standards of who they host, this particular show featured performers Eldraco, Brother Francis and the Soultones, and Elle Patterson; a trio of bands which can each individually be seen on Instagram either dressing up and performing in drag or posting semi-nude or fully nude pictures of themselves. 

Using Eldraco as just one example, his social media is rife with him dressed as a transvestite, performing at PRIDE, or, as stated, posting nude photos of himself. His concerts are slimy and garish events, with lots of writhing inevitably making up the bulk of his dance moves. 


He can be seen on the event poster, along with trans performer Francis and a woman who lives and breathes immodesty, stained glass in the background.

This is scandalous behavior for a church supposing to be salt and light, but given who is at the helm, we really are not surprised.



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