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SBC ‘Cooperation Group’ Member’s Church Has More WOMEN Pastors Than MALE Pastors

In response to the approval of a last-minute motion by a cabal of SBC insiders led by James Merritt, SBC president Bart Barber appointed a twenty-member task force, known as the Cooperation Group, to study and define the limits of “friendly cooperation.” In other words, how much could a member church’s doctrine and practice deviate from the plain meaning of the Baptist Faith and Message (BFM2000) (particularly regarding the hot-button issue of woman “pastors”) and still be considered in “friendly cooperation?”

The move followed recent decisions by SBC messengers to disfellowship Saddleback Church for ordaining women pastors and approve an amendment to the SBC constitution codifying that churches with women pastors would are not in “friendly cooperation” (amendments to the SBC constitution must be approved two years in a row to apply). While Barber insists that the role of the Cooperation Group is not “to rule in any way on the constitutional amendment proposed by Mike Law and amended by Juan Sanchez,” the messenger-undermining purpose of the group is clear – particularly as Barber has stacked the group with a veritable cantina bar-worthy cast of progressive egalitarians. Even Merritt, the gay-approving former SBC president who slipped the last-minute poison pill into the messengers’ drink, says the group’s purpose is about the role of women in ministry.

It’s an elegant, if crass, workaround, where even if the SBC constitution ends up saying specifically that the BFM2000’s prohibition on women pastors means lack of friendly cooperation, the Cooperation Group will have introduced its own muddy, subjective framework to confuse the issue just enough to make the issue of women pastors unenforceable. Even Barber insinuated that passing the “Law Amendment” would likely irrelevant because the Executive Committee (presumably with heavy influence from the “Cooperation Group”) would “rewrite” the SBC Constitution (at 8:10+).

Barber explains the makeup of who he’s choosing for the scheme: 

“The Cooperation Group contains a mixture of men and women, pastors and laypeople and denominational workers, people from various parts of our geography, and people of different ages. Additionally, following the messengers’ instructions, the Cooperation Group contains people broadly representative of the various points of view that comprise the family of churches that is the Southern Baptist Convention. The breadth of the Southern Baptist Convention includes people and churches who do not affirm the entirety of The Baptist Faith & Message…”

Enter Rev. Dr. Jerome F. Coleman, the Lead Pastor of First Baptist Church of Crestmont, in Willow Grove, Pa.

Coleman is a member of the Cooperation Group appointed by Barber due to give their recommendations this summer.

He also happens to be married to Rev. Kim A Coleman, the Executive Pastor of the church.

Not content to stay in the background, Pastor Kim regularly preaches during the morning service.

This means that Barber appointed someone who, if their church had been considered for disfellowship at last year’s Convention, would like Saddleback have certainly been disaffiliated from and excised by the denomination.

It gets worse. The church frequently invites preacher ladies to attend the pulpit and speak at conferences.

Last of all, Rev. Kim Coleman is not the only woman pastor at First Baptist Church of Crestmont, but rather there are TWO women pastors, making them the majority clergy.

Call us crazy, but a church living on borrowed time where the women pastors outnumber the male ones 2-1 is not what most Southern Baptists envision when they consider selecting members who are “broadly representative” of the denomination, and don’t think for a moment Barber doesn’t know it.

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Breaking: SBC President Bart Barber Approved Controversial Kentucky Amicus Brief: ‘People are Disappointed With Me and Angry’

Southern Baptist Convention President Bart Barber has confirmed that he approved the participation of the SBC in the controversial Kentucky Amicus Brief.

Several years ago, Samantha Killary claimed that her father, a police officer who adopted her when she was two, sexually abused her throughout her childhood until she turned 18 in 2009. She recorded him admitting it and turned in the tapes, resulting in a guilty plea and 15 years in prison.

She later sued her father’s girlfriend, whom he dated from 2001-2003, and her grandfather. Like her father, they were also police officers, and she alleges they both knew of the abuse but failed to report it. She sued the police station as well for employing all three.

At issue is whether she can sue the police station, girfriend, and gradfather, considered “non-perpetrator parties, 20 years after the fact, after a new law increased the statute of limitations to make them potentially retroactively “sue-able.”

Barber revealed in his blog that despite initially believing that he was not involved in this decision and having no memory of it, he has since he discovered the email where he approved the SBC’s participation in the brief, writing: “This is my doing. I approved it. I take full responsibility for the SBC’s having joined this brief, and this lengthy statement will help to explain the mistakes I think I have made.”

Noting that “I know that a lot of people are disappointed with me and angry,” he laments that “I did not give this decision to file this brief the level of consideration that it deserved” while sharing the circumstances that led up to him giving the go-ahead.

Fifteen months ago, on August 9, 2022, he was in Nashville and was slammed with meetings to help orient the new members of the SBC Executive Committee, when he received the email from the SBC’s legal team. They made him aware of the brief and recommended he join it, informing him that the deadline to file was later that day. With another important meeting with the Great Commission Council on the books, he only had a few hours to decide. 

“I was sitting in an orientation meeting, trying to pay attention. At the same time, I was fielding questions about my ARITF appointments, some of which were pretty insistent. Also, I was preparing for what I expected to be a tense and difficult meeting. In between all of that, as the other things allowed time, I was sneaking looks at this brief, reading it to see whether I could approve of our participation in it. And the clock was ticking. The whole thing was an email conversation, and a brief one at that. I became aware that the SBC Executive Committee was joining the brief. I approved our joining the brief. I hadn’t heard anything about it or thought anything about it since then until last Wednesday.”

Acknowledging that he did not know the circumstances of the underlying legal case, Barber shares he probably didn’t even have the power or authority to sign off on in the first place, but that his consistent practice in addressing these legal matters has been considering “Is this an honest, true legal question for which the Southern Baptist Convention can take this position in good faith?”

I am not sure exactly what I think about statutes of limitation. I think they are a mixed bag. I agree with our 2019 resolution that statutes of limitation can get in the way of true justice. I also think that sometimes they are an important part of justice….I am uncomfortable with the harm statutes of limitations can do, but I also think that they play a valid role in the law sometimes.”

Coming to read more about the case, Barber says that he’s disheartened about the message his approving the brief sent to Samantha Killary, “I can’t stop thinking about her. What have I communicated to her and to other survivors by taking this action?” and is devastated by the fallout of the consequences of not giving the brief its due consideration.

“I was not thinking, “How can I harm survivors of sexual abuse today?” I spent that day appointing people like Marshall Blalock and Todd Benkert, both of whom have publicly expressed disapproval of this brief….I spent that day trying to support everyone on the Abuse Reform Implementation Task Force and to carry forward our work. August 9, 2022, was not a day I spent trying to hurt survivors.

That’s what makes it hurt so much, and that’s what makes me so disappointed in myself: I did, in fact, wind up hurting survivors by what I did. My determination for us to advance abuse reform in the SBC is no less than it was when I began, but I know that my credibility with you is harmed by this, perhaps irreparably.”

Barber concludes:

Throughout the last year and a half, so many of you have told me that you are praying for me. I can tell by the looks on your faces that some of you think I am joking when I reply, “Please keep praying for me, because every day I make decisions for you that I do not know how to make.” I am counting on your prayers and I am counting on wisdom from above. I hope that I learn a little with every mistake that I make, and I hope that those of you who are angry with me today can find it in your hearts to forgive me.

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SBC Prez. Bart Barber Hopeful Hundreds of Black Churches Won’t Be Expelled Under His Watch (But They Probably Will)

Two days ago, NAAF, the National African American Fellowship of the SBC, a race-based special interest group that represents 4,000 SBC churches that identify as “Black Churches,” released an open letter that was sent to President Bart Barber in opposition to ratification and enforcement of the Mike Law Amendment as a standard by which “friendly cooperation” would be determined. 

The fellowship believes that women should be allowed to receive pastoral titles and serve in pastoral roles. They believe this issue may “disproportionately impact NAAF affiliated congregations” because “Many of our churches assign the title “pastor” to women who oversee ministries of the church under
the authority of a male Senior Pastor, i.e., Children’s Pastor, Worship Pastor, Discipleship Pastor.” To that end, they’re requesting that the entire convention should engage in a year of prayer, study, and discussion to “allow a diversity of voices and perspectives to be heard.”

Institutionalists like Bart Barber, James Merritt, JD Greear, and Ed Litton are working together with a left-leaning segment of the convention, and playing the race card, with the agenda of either rallying the convention to reject the Mike Law amendment at its second vote at the 2024 convention or neutering the meaning of “friendly cooperation,” so that the amendment isn’t enforced as a standard for friendly cooperation. 

The use of the race card is a potent move, considering the way that the institutionalists of the SBC have embraced and weaponized Critical Race Theory and Standpoint Epistemology. 

Bart Barber received the letter on July 3. One week later, when the letter was made public by NAAF, Bart Barber and Baptist Press simultaneously made press releases that praised the effort. Barber said it is important to “find common ground and make decisions together.”

The positive spin that Barber put on this effort shows that the institutionalists have plans to keep the tent as large as they can at the expense of scriptural fidelity. Christians should always pray, but it is pointless to pray to ask God whether we should compromise on our faithfulness to scripture.

A counsel to compromise on the truth of scripture isn’t a “Jerusalem Council,” as James Merritt called it. Rather it is a council of self-important fools who believe that their opinion matters as much as God’s word.

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SBC Prez Quotes Abortion Abolitionist to Justify His Beliefs, But that Abolitionists Instantly Claps Back

Last week, SBC president Bart Barber continued his attacks against Southern Baptists abortion abolitionists, parroting his and the ERLC’s eternal efforts to shoot down and destroy any abolitionist resolutions or any abolitionist laws passed by the states and painting all abortion-minded women as “victims” who should not be punished for murdering their child, since they weren’t the ones who wielded the murder weapons (like the scalpel and suction machines)

In his article offering his lousy argumentation, he appealed to an article written by abortion abolitionist Bill Ascol in 2019, claiming he and Ascol were ideologically aligned and quoting him as justification for his pro-life beliefs.

When I spoke of women who seek abortions as victims, I quoted a very prominent Southern Baptist “abortion abolitionist.” My statements about the victimhood of women in that article lined up very closely with those of Bill Ascol. Why? Because Bill is a good enough theologian to understand what Jesus taught us about the role of Satan in trying to deceive, ensnare, and destroy people. To be sure, Bill was affirming culpability while he was affirming victimhood. So am I.

Ascol wasn’t having it, however, writing:


For more about Barber’s obstreperous word and deeds when it comes to abortion:

SBC Prez. Bart Barber Slanders Conservatives and The Abolitionist Movement
Breaking! Bart Barber’s Resolutions Committee Kills Abortion Abolition Resolution in Favor of Watered Down One that Praises ERLC
SBC. President Bart Barber Slanders Abortion Abolitionists + Lies About Ectopic Pregnancies and Coercion
SBC President Bart Barber Gives a Lesson in How NOT to Repent
SBC Presidential Candidate Bart Barber Claims the Woman is “Never the One Doing the Killing” During an Abortion

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SBC President Twists Scripture To Paint Abortive Women as Victims

SBC president Bart Barber continued his attacks against Southern Baptists abortion abolitionists this week, parroting his and the ERLC’s eternal efforts to shoot down and destroy any abolitionist resolutions or any abolitionist laws passed by the states.

Recently SBC Pastor Wesley Russell tagged Barber in a video featuring several “shout your abortion” type advocate screaming “f*** them kids” in describing aborted babies. Barber has an archetype in his mind that basically all women who have abortions are perennially frightened 14-year-olds who are unwilling victims, dragged into clinics by their pimps or boyfriends who threaten to leave or kill them if they don’t go through with it.

Barber offers his reasons why they’re victims:

In Louisiana, before the Supreme Court decision that saw Roe v. Wade abolished, abolitionists were very close to seeing abortion made illegal in the state, but then the ERLC joined forces with Planned Parenthood to defeat it. 

This is an abbreviated form of a truly wretched and internally inconsistent article he wrote a while back, where he argued: and whose arguments were handily responded to here.

4. Should abortion laws mandate the prosecution of women who seek or obtain an abortion?

I think not. I think it is unjust, unnecessary, and unwise to include in abortion laws the prosecution of women who seek or obtain an abortion.

I believe it is unjust because the woman obtaining the abortion is not the murderer. Think of it this way: What is the murder weapon? It’s a set of surgical tools, right? Who operated the murder weapon? The abortionist did. The abortionist is the murderer, and any law banning abortion should identify the abortionist uniquely as such.

But didn’t this essay just declare the woman to be morally and spiritually culpable in abortion? If so, why should abortion laws not hold them legally culpable? Surely there is some prosecutable role that the woman plays? Is she guilty of murder-for-hire? It depends. Often the woman is not the person paying for the abortion. Sometimes it is the father of the baby. Sometimes it is her father. Sometimes it is you and I and other American citizens paying for the abortion by way of our taxes.

Is she guilty of soliciting the abortion? It depends. Was she coerced? Pro-life advocates like Lila Rose and David Daleiden have filmed Planned Parenthood workers arranging to provide abortion services to what they thought were pimps who wanted to secure abortions for sex-trafficked girls.

To argue that women who have abortions are not murderers and, therefore, should not be punished because they’ve been blinded to their crimes, he quotes 2 Corinthians 4:4 in an epic twisting of scripture

And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they will not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants on account of Jesus. For God, who said, “Light shall shine out of darkness,” is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ

Pastor Scott Packett explains why Barber’s scripture twist is so egregious.

@bartbarber said that 2 Cor. 4:4 shows that women who murder their babies are victims due to being blinded by the enemy. However, if you go on to the next verses, Paul tells us that it is the church’s responsibility to shine light into that darkness, which is not calling them a victim, but calling them a sinner that is perishing and telling them that their only hope is the life giving gospel of Christ.

Jesus, nor any of the Apostles, ever once called sinners victims, but clearly stated we are all guilty & deserving of God’s righteous wrath. So, as long as Christ’s church continues to call some sinners, murderers in this case, victims, then how will these women ever come to the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ? We must repent of this mishandling of God’s Word, and start standing firm on its truth without apology, regardless of the cost!

Barber has a standing invitation to meet with any abolitinist southern baptist pastor- they’ll visit him on their dime, to discuss the issue, but so far Barber has steadfastly refused.


For more about Barber’s obstreperous nature when it come sto abortion:

SBC Prez. Bart Barber Slanders Conservatives and The Abolitionist Movement
Breaking! Bart Barber’s Resolutions Committee Kills Abortion Abolition Resolution in Favor of Watered Down One that Praises ERLC
SBC. President Bart Barber Slanders Abortion Abolitionists + Lies About Ectopic Pregnancies and Coercion
SBC President Bart Barber Gives a Lesson in How NOT to Repent
SBC Presidential Candidate Bart Barber Claims the Woman is “Never the One Doing the Killing” During an Abortion

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OP-ED: SBC Prez. Bart Barber Keeps on Misrepresenting Abortion Abolitionism. Why Can’t He Get it Right?

Few things in the evangelical landscape of the west have caused a more polarizing response than that of the abortion crisis. More specifically, the nation’s largest Protestant denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention, has been torn over the issue for the better part of its existence. Whether through weekly sermon applications, daily evangelism, or annual resolutions, Southern Baptists have had much to say about this issue. That is a good thing in and of itself. After all, our Lord has much to say about this issue as well.

God has smothered the pages of Scripture with divine decrees that His people are to treat all humans with the equal value in which He created them. Yet, it seems this has become a mere catchphrase for those who find themselves in the middle of this discourse. Do Southern Baptists believe that the preborn actually are of equal value? If so, why wouldn’t they be willing to take a stand on providing the preborn with equal justice? If equal justice, why not equal protection? This is where the SBC finds itself in an unfortunate rift. Many of the saints involved in the fight to end abortion have bound themselves to a particular ideology. Usually, one of two.

1. Gradualism/incrementalism (defining ideology of the Pro-Life Movement)

2. Immediatism (defining ideology of the Abolitionist Movement)

Gradual incrementalism seeks to end abortion gradually by standing for and standing behind incremental methods of both evangelism and legislation.

Immediate abolitionism seeks to end abortion immediately by standing for and standing behind immediate and complete methods of both evangelism and legislation.

The majority of the SBC holds to the former, some by default and some by conscious assessment of the two ideologies. That certainly is true for the current president of the convention, Bart Barber. There might not be an individual more loudly sold out to the cause of gradual incrementalism than he. It does not take long to find content from Bart expressing his absolute favor of the gradualist movement and his devout disdain for the immediate abolition movement.

Recently, in Volume 8, Issue 6 of the ERLC’s ‘LIGHT Magazine’, Barber wrote a piece entitled “A Pro-Life Response to Abolitionism’s Critiques,” an article in which he sought to respond to the critiques of many immediate abolitionists’ open and thorough critiques of mainstream, pro-life incrementalism.

In this article, I endeavor to honestly and lovingly engage with many of the tragic misrepresentations and incomplete arguments that Barber made. I hope this bridges a gap and stimulates Christian conversation about six issues at hand in this discussion.

CLAIM 1: ABOLITIONISTS LET WOMEN DIE

 “Although I have yet to encounter a Southern Baptist whose position is, ‘OK, just let them both die, then!’ some abolitionist laws have avoided the necessary exclusions.”

This is not the first time that Barber has made this claim. Sadly, there have been many Twitter threads and dialogue at convention meetings where this claim has been made. There are a few problems with this claim.

Abolition bills do deal with situations like ectopic pregnancy in various ways including restating or strengthening existing defenses like self-defense and duress. Barber’s response to this has been that providing or strengthening a defense is not enough: “Physicians should not have to appear in court repeatedly to bear the expense and burden of proof to show that their saving the life of the mother by ending the life of the baby in an ectopic pregnancy or similar situation was warranted.”

Barber’s point is that a defense is something you raise in court after you’ve been charged. So he’s concerned that a doctor who treats an ectopic pregnancy could theoretically be forced into court for every ectopic pregnancy they treat and have to offer their defense before being let go.

But this is not how prosecutors anywhere operate. In their analysis of Idaho’s recent Supreme Court decisions on abortion, left-leaning legal blog JDSupra wrote that even though the Idaho law makes such over-prosecution possible, that doesn’t mean any prosecutors would be stupid enough to do so: “Of course, as a practical matter, prosecutors are unlikely to pursue cases in which affirmative defenses are likely to apply.” Prosecutors don’t pursue losing cases, and they especially don’t pursue losing cases against abortionists and mothers. Bart’s concern is a non-issue.

Even as a non-issue, Bart’s problem is not fundamentally with abolition bills: his problem is with the entire American legal system and almost all pro-life bills that operates with affirmative defenses. Unless he is suggesting the federal government and all states get rid of affirmative defenses and make them explicit exemptions, he needs to stop raising this objection. All an abolition bill does is make existing law apply to children in the womb.

Further, some abolition bills like HB3326 in Barber’s home state of Texas, even provide explicit exemptions: “Conduct is justified if the conduct charged is a lawful medical procedure performed by a physician or other licensed health care provider and intended to remove an ectopic pregnancy that seriously threatens the life of the mother when a reasonable alternative to save the lives of both the mother and the unborn child is unavailable.”

It is a perpetuation of a lie to claim that abolitionists or abolition bills are not supportive of saving the mother’s life in dangerous medical situations.

Barber’s misrepresentation of what is an actual abortion also has to be mentioned. Regarding ectopic pregnancies, there are categorically different procedures for those tragic cases. These are called “salpingostomy and salpingectomy,” according to the Mayo Clinic. The rationale for such treatments being legal is that they are not the cause of the baby’s death, but might indeed save the mother’s life. Barber, however, classifies these medical procedures as abortion, writing that these procedures “take the ectopic baby’s life to save the mother.”

CLAIM 2: ABORTING MOTHERS ARE VICTIMS

“Are women who get an abortion victims? Of course they are.”

The claim and narrative of the “second victim” has been a cancerous growth onto modern evangelism. He further claims, “I agree with the preacher who said in a sermon, “Women are pressured by the men who impregnated them to get abortions. Women are pressured by their families to get abortions. They are pressured by the stigma that they think will come to them to get an abortion. . . . They are . . . victims, and . . . scripture speaks to that.’”

Of course, it is sometimes true that women are pressured to murder their children. But the theological issue here is: does external pressure and temptation to sin exonerate sinners? Is this what God has said in His word?

James 1:14-15 clearly states, “But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death.”

Humans are tempted when they are lured and enticed by their own desire. It is afterward that when the sinful desire conceives that it gives birth to sin. Humans are not merely tempted by external sources and outside pressures but each individual is guilty of their own sins. The theological implications to the second victim narrative are enormous, and when handled wrongly, make one guilty of what Isaiah says in 5:20, “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.”

There is clearly one victim in every abortion and that is the child who has their life unjustly taken from them. Especially in light of the word “victim” quite literally meaning, “one that is acted on and usually adversely affected by a force or agent.”

Imagine if we used this logic for other sins that are crimes. Are people raised by rapists, pedophiles, and murderers victims when they rape, molest, and murder because of their circumstances which tempted them into sinful crimes? Of course not.

When parents choose to murder their children, God will hold them accountable to that sin and so should we. Bart somewhat acknowledges this by saying, “Our preaching of forgiveness for abortion is an ongoing affirmation of the fact that women who consent to an abortion are morally and spiritually culpable for abortion.” This is where the catastrophic inconsistency lies. If every woman, in every abortion, every time is a victim, then can they simultaneously be morally and spiritually culpable? There is no biblical category for what Barber is grasping for here. There is no category set aside for innocent murderers or guiltless violence.

If they are culpable then should we not call them to repentance? Why, of course. How can we do such a thing if we treat them as victims?

This is not to say that women are never victims in abortions. In 2022, a man in Texas (where Bart has claimed abortion was fully banned) was accused of sneaking an abortion pill into a woman’s drink. This woman is absolutely innocent of any wrongdoing and without a shadow of a doubt a victim. The mindful, knowledgeable, and willful abortion of a child by the woman, though? That is murder and the child is the only victim.

CLAIM 3: ABORTION LAWS SHOULDN’T “MANDATE” PROSECUTION

“Should abortion laws mandate the prosecution of women who seek or obtain an abortion? I think not. I think it is unjust, unnecessary, and unwise to include in abortion laws the prosecution of women who seek or obtain an abortion.”

Barber thinks not but God thinks so.

The first point which must be noted is that no law “mandates” prosecution. That’s not how laws work, and this is another example of Barber’s legal ignorance (and that of Light Magazine’s editors) rearing its head. Laws make possible the prosecution of crimes but prosecutors have discretion regarding whether to bring charges to court. No law binds a prosecutor into pursuing a certain sentence when the facts of the case don’t warrant it.

Second, what is the biblical definition of being “unjust” or “unwise?” God must be our standard for such claims and His Word must inform every thought when approaching these topics. What does God’s Word say about justice? What is the Christian’s role in administering justice?

To simply put it:

Do not turn a blind eye to the abortion holocaust happening among you or God will turn to you in anger (Lev. 20). Open your eyes and speak up for the mute (Prov. 31:8-9). Do what is right (Prov. 21:3) and love your preborn neighbor as yourself (Mark 12:31).

In Mark 12, when Jesus says, “love your neighbor as yourself,” he is quoting from Leviticus 19:18. Just before that God says,“You shall do no injustice in court. You shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great, but in righteousness shall you judge your neighbor” (verse 15). Meaning, if you want to love your neighbor—especially your preborn neighbor—show no legal partiality to them and judge them in righteousness. Judge them according to the righteous standard God has given us: the one that says, “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image” (Genesis 9:6).

Barber continues on this point with a flurry of acrobatic hoop-jumping, arguing that:

  • The abortionist is the one operating the abortion tools.
  • Prosecuting women for abortion is unnecessary because they can already be prosecuted under conspiracy laws.
    • Mostly false.
  • Those who would be prosecuted would mostly be those who are coerced.
    • Completely, embarrassingly false. We can only speculate, but it’s unlikely that a truly coerced woman would ever be prosecuted. Only a wicked, heartless prosecutor intent on career suicide would ever prosecute a coerced woman. It is primarily women ordering abortion pills online who would be prosecuted if an abolition bill were enforced.
  • Most pro-life organizations and many Southern Baptists historically haven’t supported fully criminalizing abortion.
    • True, and damning of the Pro-Life Movement.

It also must be noted that Barber frames equal protection for preborn children as “singl[ing] out women for prosecution.” No abolition bill does any such thing. They just make preborn children equal under law, which means that anyone who murders them can be prosecuted.

Barber’s humanistic, emotional appeals against the full criminalization of abortion are weak even by their own standard, and are a vomitous abomination by the standard of scripture.

CLAIM 5: INCREMENTALISM ISN’T COMPROMISE

“Does it amount to sinful compromise to apply wisdom to the pro-life cause and to act strategically toward the long term goal of ending legal abortion? Of course not.”

Is it sinful to show partiality? Of course it is. From Genesis to Revelation God reserves some of His strongest, most intense warnings for people who show partiality. Barber is attempting to make a case for gradualism here—a case that many made in the slavery abolition movement that prolonged slavery—by conflating wisdom and pragmatism. He says, “Pragmatism is bad when it is an excuse for disobeying God. But sometimes pragmatism is just a word to describe wisdom employed to obey God.”

Pragmatism is not an issue of nuance—it is a philosophical worldview, one that is categorically distinct from the Christian worldview. C.S. Pierce and William James established the pragmatism movement in the United States in order to prove that the, “meaning of conceptions is to be sought in their practical bearings, that the function of thought is to guide action, and that truth is preeminently to be tested by the practical consequences of belief.

So the issue for Barber and his gradualist constituents is not one of methodology but one of theological principles. When your approach to ending abortion causes certain individuals to have less justice and inconsistent protections under the law, it should be defined as sinful compromise. The Lord does not call for delayed justice, He calls for immediate, “true justice” (Zechariah 7:9).

Christians should not seek simply to approach abortion practically and never pragmatically. They should desire to approach the murder of the preborn principally and Scripturally. As Clay Hall (Oak Grove Baptist Church, Paducah, KY) says, “We should not just do something about abortion, we should do the right something for the right reasons.”

Barber further contends:

[S]ometimes pragmatism is just a word to describe wisdom employed to obey God. The case law in the Torah often represents pragmatic wisdom employed to apply the principles of godliness to the situations of daily life. Such biblical case law includes explicit exceptions to murder laws based upon some of the very factors that have appeared above in this essay (uncertainty about intent, duress, etc.).

God led Moses to apply the sixth commandment not in an absolute way, but with a wisdom that created cities of refuge and manslaughter laws and, notably, specific situational laws surrounding the death of a child before birth.

This a conflation of God justly differentiating between categories of homicide and man choosing to write laws which deny some preborn children of all of their rights and legal equality, thereby “making the fatherless prey” (Isaiah 10:2).

Barber continues:

The abortion abolition movement has, so far, been unable to pass legislation even in the most pro-life states in the Union. Anyone who seriously cares about protecting babies from death by abortion must recognize the importance of passing legislation nationwide to end abortion. But members of this movement tie the pro-life movement to the laws least likely to pass.

This is a sleight of hand often practiced by pro-life leaders. Barber is correct that an abolition bill has yet to pass. But those who say this seem to always conveniently forget to mention why these bills haven’t passed: namely, the people who say this typically are the reason they haven’t passed.

It is first and foremost pro-life organizations who have stood against bills to abolish abortion at every turn, most famously in Louisiana when the ERLC (which publishes Light Magazine and is an SBC entity) signed an open letter with 75 other pro-life organizations opposing and killing the Abolition of Abortion in Louisiana Act. Prior to the pro-life organizations mobilizing against the bill, it sailed easily through committee by a 7-2 vote. The pro-abortion forces couldn’t stop it. But after the pro-life organizations came out against it, nearly all of the legislators who supported it in committee flip-flopped and voted against it on the House floor. (Hear the full story here.)

The best outcome would be these pro-life and national SBC entities repenting and supporting the abolition of abortion, but second best would be for them to get out of the way.

CLAIM 6: BART WANTS TO TALK

“I want to be able to sit across the table from abortion abolitionists. I want us to be able to address one another respectfully and to work with one another where it is possible to do so.”

Then make it happen, Bart. Respond to Dusty Deevers’ text message.

This is one of the most disheartening parts in Barber’s article. It paints a picture of abolitionists that as being unwilling to have a conversation, when in reality, that is all we have been trying to do.

Through being attacked by entity heads on social media, muted at mics, the calling of questions at conventions, and slandered in published articles, abolitionist-incrementalist conversations have been shut down by the incremental pragmatists. The worst case of this by far was Barber’s Twitter thread targeting SBC pastor Dusty Deevers with numerous vicious and deranged lies such as, “unless you 100% agree with every jot and tittle of Deevers’s obsession with sending 16-year-old girls to prison for succumbing to the coercion of their parents to have an abortion, he will label you ‘against the innocent preborn.’” For his part in half-a-dozen savage, dishonest character assassinations of Deevers, all Barber apologized for was the use of the word “obsession,” something for which no one was asking him to apologize for.

Deevers — a pastor at Grace Community Church, Elgin, OK — has tried privately to seek reconciliation with Bart according to Christ’s exhortation in Matthew 18, yet has been consistently turned down and been subsequently, publicly misrepresented. To the authors of this article, Deevers said:

“As God commands of me, I have—along with the elders of my church—sought reconciliation directly with Bart from his slanders and lies and am willing and have offered multiple times to sit down across the table from Bart and have these conversations. However, at this point, that conversation would need to be moderated and documented in order stop any further distortion.”

So yes, have those conversations that you talk about, Bart. You don’t even have to seek them out. Your brothers have told you they will drive to Farmersville with their elders to meet with you and yours. Abolitionists have called and are still calling for these conversations with you personally and for moderated debate with SBC incrementalists generally. We want to see this happen as well. Let us labor to become of one mind towards whatever strategies and actions it takes to see abortion abolished by God, for God, and to the glory of God.


Editor’s Note. This article was written by Wesley Russell and James Silberman and originally appeared at Free The States. Wesley is the pastor of Immanuel Baptist Church in Pikeville, KY. James is the Communications Director of Free the States. Title changed by Protestia.

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$60,000 a Month to Hire a Receptionist? SBC Pastor Requests Transparency Over Guidepost Hotline Cost + Updated FAQ

In the wake of The Southern Baptist Convention’s decision to drop millions of dollars to tackle sexual abuse claims within the denomination, some pastors and laypeople are seeking fiscal accountability and transparency over the costs associated with some of the programs, in particular the hotline that was created for victims to call in and report abuse.

In response to the question, SBC president Bart Barber released a video explaining that he doesn’t know how much it costs, other than that it’s “expensive” and that no one will know until it’s revealed at the annual convention this summer.

He explains:

The last two years that we’ve met the Southern Baptists, the messengers like you and me have overwhelmingly lifted our ballots in support of reforms regarding sexual abuse…Messengers have known when we’ve done that, that there would be costs associated with our response to sexual abuse. And there have been people who’ve been asking questions…about one aspect of those costs and, you know, the transparency and the answering the questions and all that sort of thing that happens in the Southern Baptist Convention happens in (the convention center). That’s the way our system is designed, that you can come to the convention and ask questions and receive answers.

The question has been raised is about the cost of the hotline that Southern Baptist has for people who have experienced sexual abuse to make a report about abuse. And folks have been asking, “what is the monthly charge for that?”

It doesn’t actually work that way. There’s not a flat monthly charge for the hotline. Instead, a month where one person calls in is less expensive than a month where ten people call in. And of course, the first few months of the hotline came when we’ve never had anything like that before. And because we’ve never had anything like that before, there’s a backlog of people waiting to call in.

So I can’t give an answer that says every month it costs ‘this amount’. But I will tell you this: it’s expensive. Responding to sexual abuse is expensive, and Southern Baptist deserve to know that. But what we’ve got to do, whenever we examine the cost of doing something about sexual abuse, we’ve also got to try to assess the cost of doing nothing. It does not cost nothing to do nothing about sexual abuse… The only way to make the expense go away is to make the abuse go away.

Barber’s suggestion that “a month where one person calls in is less expensive than a month where ten people call in” is puzzling, given what the hotline does and doesn’t do. 

While on the one hand, it’s clear the Guidepost Solution report is not worth the paper it’s printed on, on the other, it makes one question what the Guidepost operators are doing all day. According to the Guidepost Solutions website, updated with a FAQ just days ago after questions emerged regarding their practices, the hotline operators take in reports, ask a few questions, and then pass on the information without investigating, functioning as glorified answering machines or receptionists. It’s to be assumed that those taking the calls would have some training in trauma response and how to speak to victims, but why would it cost more to take in one report verses ten?

  1. What is the purpose of the SBC Hotline?

The goal of the SBC Hotline is to gather reports of current or former allegations of sexual abuse in a trauma-informed, safe atmosphere for survivors so as to inform the SBC about any past or current issues and allegations which demand action. While Guidepost conducts interviews of reporters of abuse who contact the hotline, we are not currently engaged by the SBC to undertake investigations of any allegation.

  1. Who does a reporter speak to when they call or email the SBC Hotline?

A small number of trauma-informed Guidepost team members receive hotline emails/calls and engage with reporters. Once Guidepost receives a report through the hotline, one of our trauma-informed team members contacts and speaks to the reporter to gather additional information relative to the allegation. All calls/emails are handled exclusively by Guidepost team members.

Once the report is made, the traumascribe would create two reports. First, they send summaries of the allegations gathered in the course of the interviews to the SBC Credentials Committee, giving them the who, what, when, where, and why of each case. This bi-weekly report (the “CC Report”) includes “the names of alleged abusers, the names and locations of the respective churches, the names of leaders potentially involved, and other details of the allegations.” This could be as little as a single page of information.

They also send a monthly report to the Abuse Reform Implementation Task Force (ARITF) and SBC EC executive leadership, summarizing the various statistics of calls and emails that go through the hotline.
This means that the executive leadership knows how many (or how few) calls are being fielded each month and could quickly release this information if they chose. But they don’t and are content to wait a year before sharing.

Given how the hotline works, it’s difficult to see how manning it could cost more than three or four thousand bucks a month, given what a competent receptionist with a little extra something-something working a 40-hour workweek could accomplish. We can only hope that Barber is wrong and they’re not paid per phone call answered, but let’s not pretend that, as he claims, “transparency happens in this room” and “that’s how the system works.”

The reason SBC and EC leadership don’t want to give the cold hard numbers on Twitter is because they know it will be shocking. They want to have everyone gathered in the room in New Orleans so they can control the environment, tell sob stories about the cost of doing nothing, give their James Merritt shaming speeches to make people feel guilty for having any questions, and finally take a mob vote that follows the platform.



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Defamation?! Man At Center of Massive SBC Sex Scandal Sues Denomination, Along with 11 Prominent Southern Baptists For Lying About Him

Former Southern Baptist Theological Seminary professor David Sills has filed suit against the SBC and 11 other high-profile personalities, including current SBC President Bart Barber, former president Ed Litton, Albert Mohler, Jennifer Lyell (the woman who accused him of sexual abuse) and others. Sills is requesting a trial by jury, claiming that he’s been repeatedly and unfairly maligned for years, and is seeking monetary damages and compensation for having his reputation destroyed by his denomination. Baptist Global news, citing the brief, quote from the lawsuit:

“Rather than seek the truth, defendants repeated and circulated false statements about Dr. Sills, causing him to be cast as a toxic pariah. After various mischaracterizations, misstatements, and a contrived ‘investigation’ by defendants, the plaintiffs, David Sills and Mary Sills, have been wrongfully and untruthfully labeled as criminals and shunned by the SBC.” 

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(The defendants) understood the value of making an example out of SBC member and employee David Sills who, without controversy, had admitted to an affair with Lyell and willingly accepted the SBC requirement that he depart from his position at the seminary. In essence, defendants saw an opportunity to improve the appearance and reputation of SBC’s handling of abuse cases, long under fire, even though there had not been any legitimate and proper investigation into the allegations, nor was Dr. Sills adequately informed of the specific nature and extent of accusations made by Lyell.

Several years ago, Lyell, then a Vice-President at Lifeway Christian Resources, admitted to being involved in a sexual relationship with David Sills for over a decade. She claimed that it resulted from him ‘grooming’ her while enrolled in a missions class at the seminary in 2004 when she was 26 years old, ending 12 years later when she was 38 and having long moved on. She says that he “sexually acted” against her but never provided details or offered what the grooming looked like throughout their relationship, particularly when they were away from each other for months at a time. Once their affair was revealed, however, it resulted in his swift termination and public disgrace.

A year later, she would seemingly walk back any suggestion that she was guilty of any sin for the relationship, explaining in an update that just because she was ‘compliant’, it did not mean their relationship was ‘consensual.’ As her understanding of her role in the whole affair continued to evolve, she also appeared to dispel the notion that there was any sin on her part for which she ought to apologize, supposing that she was and remains a complete, guiltless victim in every sense of the word, sharing the same culpability of a 4-year-old being, molested by her step-father.

Everyone agreed with her. The SBC Committee ultimately defended her victimhood the Sexual Abuse Task Force dedicated approximately 35 of its 288 pages to Lyell’s story and the circumstances surrounding it, repeatedly castigating Sills not as an “alleged abuser” but a definite, for sure, unequivocal “abuser” while framing the 12 years together as one long incident of “nonconsensual sexual abuse” between adults.

The SBC Executive Committee, in a rare move, also issued a personal apology to Lyell for failing to “adequately listen, protect and care” for her after she came forward with allegations of sexual abuse by her professor, as well as acknowledged the “unintentional harm” they caused her by not correctly reporting her case and framing what happened to her in a blameworthy and distressing manner, resulting in a confidential monetary settlement to Lyell of $1,500,000. The Baptist press writes further:

Sills has not denied engaging in an inappropriate relationship with Lyell, and he resigned his post at Southern Seminary after being confronted about it. However, in the new court filing he insists he did not sexually abuse Lyell, force himself upon Lyell, use violence against Lyell, threaten to use violence against Lyell or “engage in sexual intercourse” with Lyell “at any time whatsoever.”

The filing says Sills acknowledges “a personal and emotionally intimate relationship” between the two but claims it was initiated by Lyell, who was “well above the age of consent.”

Further:

The court filing further claims Lyell maintained the relationship by driving several hundred miles — from Nashville, Tenn., to Louisville, Ky. — to see Sills. It also claims Sills “ended the relationship with Defendant Lyell who nevertheless persisted her pursuit of Sills and undertook efforts to reach Dr. Sills through his family.”

David and Mary Sills also contend that Lyell, “relying on her expertise as an accomplished writer and executive in the fields of advertising and publishing within the SBC, a lucrative and powerful position, constructed a false narrative against Dr. Sills and Mrs. Sills, at the height of awareness of SBC scandals.”

“Thereafter, Ms. Lyell engaged in an effort to restore her reputation and preserve her powerful position of doling out lucrative book deals, while affirmatively and skillfully dismantling the reputations, careers, and family life of David Sills and Mary Sills,” the court filing states.

Sills has apparently taken umbrage with everyone who decried him as a sexual abuser and engaged in both slander and libel against him, including:

None have publicly responded to the suit.

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Podcast! Founders Ministries’ Lack of Discernment, Bart Barber’s Personal Twitter Magisterium, and Is God Just As Sad at Natural Disasters As We Are?

On Protestia Tonight, David talks about Bart Barber’s personal Twitter Magisterium, a little bible shreddin’ with Andy Stanley, and Jonathan Leeman’s dull take on Christian Nationalism. In the patron-only portion, we take issue with Founder’s Ministries’ lack of discernment on Side B “Christianity.”

On Bible Bashed, Tim and Harrison ask whether or not natural disasters are as bad as they seem, whether they are within or beyond God’s control, and whether or not God wills for 60,000 souls to be killed in Tsunamis and the subsequent threats of disease and looting. (Hint, he does)

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SBC President Bart Barber Gives a Lesson in How NOT to Repent

(Free the States) On September 15, Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) President Bart Barber unleashed a vicious, dishonest Twitter attack against SBC pastor Dusty Deevers. (Watch Deevers’ response to the various attacks here.) One day later, Barber Tweeted an equally dishonest thread against the Abolitionist Movement in general.

On Friday, Barber “repented” on Twitter. Unfortunately, the “repentance” was nearly as bad as the original tirade, and in so doing, Barber put on a clinic teaching us how not to repent.

“A little more than a month ago, I used the word ‘obsession’ to describe @DustyDeevers‘s approach to abortion law, specifically with regard to coerced minors. I repent of that. The word ‘obsession’ not only assumes motivation but also implies something bordering upon mental instability. It’s an inflammatory and accusatory word.

“What makes it worse is that I did it intentionally because I was angry—angry at Deevers’s unwarranted and unprovoked attacks against @LeatherwoodERLC. In my anger, I sought to match Deevers’s own hyperbolic incivility. But my actual job is not to mimic Deevers hyperbolic incivility; my actual job is to imitate Christ’s gracious truth-telling.

“And I know…everyone moved past this weeks ago. But the Holy Spirit has not. And so, I apologize for my intemperate tweeting, I retract the word ‘obsession,’ I thank those of you who called me out on it back then, and covet your prayers for me to do better.”

Repentance is a defining theme in the Abolitionist Movement. Just about everybody has been either apathetic toward or unbiblical (to varying degrees) in their efforts to fight abortion, making repentance something of a rite of passage into the movement. Repentance is so central to abolitionism that the theme of the 2022 Abolition Now Conference was “Repent With Us”, and featured public repentance testimonies from abolitionist leaders like T. Russell Hunter, Blake Gideon, and Jon Speed.

Repentance is part and parcel to the Christian life. The first of Martin Luther’s 95 theses stated, “When our Lord and Master Jesus Christ said, ‘Repent’ (Mt 4:17), he willed the entire life of believers to be one of repentance.” This makes learning how to repent important crucial to the individual Christian and to the movement to abolish abortion.

Working from Barber’s thread, let’s look at three ways to “repent” that undermine true repentance.

PARTIAL REPENTANCE IS UNREPENTANCE

When we repent, we must own everything we did wrong. In The Gospel Coalition, Joel Lindsey writes:

“Deep repentance demands full confession. Though it seems counterintuitive, the only way to be truly covered by Christ is to fully expose your sin. In the process of repentance, we must fight to be utterly transparent before God about the depth and breadth of our sin. Only ruthless honesty will suffice—and lead to freedom and joy.”

Lindsey is writing more specifically about confessing sin to God as the sinner pleads for ultimate justification and righteousness in Christ. But the principle applies just as well to sins committed by a believer against a brother. Confession and forgiveness are crucial to the Christian life and partial confession or forgiveness won’t do. Barber’s partial repentance is merely a bone being thrown to those upset with his thread, without actually admitting the sins that simply must be admitted.

Barber made a handful of bad arguments in favor of incrementalism in the thread, but this section will focus on sins committed. Specifically, Barber sinned against Deevers or abolitionists in the following ways:

1) LYING ABOUT DEEVERS’ “OBSESSION” AND COERCED 16 YEAR-OLDS

While Barber repented for using the word “obsession,” he did not repent of the general accusation that Deevers supports sending coerced 16 year-olds to prison.

Barber wrote: “[U]nless you 100% agree with every jot and tittle of Deevers’s obsession with sending 16-year-old girls to prison for succumbing to the coercion of their parents to have an abortion, he will label you ‘against the innocent preborn.’”

This is the most viciously slanderous sentence of the entire two threads, and the word “obsession” has nothing to do with it. Only a monster would support sending to prison a 16 year-old who has been coerced into abortion. No sane person anywhere supports sending to prison vulnerable people who commit under duress what would otherwise be criminal acts. It’s obviously evil and insane to do so, which makes Barber’s accusation an extremely serious one.

Never in his life has Deevers said anything that could even remotely suggest any degree of support for sending coerced minors to prison. Barber is accusing Deevers of horrifying evil based on nothing…to continue reading, click here (and trust me, it’s an excellent, worthy read)


Editor’s Note. This article was written by James Silberman and posted at Free the States