Pro tip: Don't listen to a Christian preacher who can't say with absolute confidence that his salvation is secure, no matter how many of his books are on your shelf. In yet another concerning theological stumble, John Piper has muddied the waters of biblical understanding. This time, he's pushing a dangerous narrative that Christians can potentially "shipwreck" their faith and lose salvation - a claim that strikes at the heart of biblical assurance. During a recent conference appearance, Piper suggested that believers could potentially fall away, and bizarrely claimed he keeps people "saved" through his preaching. This isn't just...
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1 Timothy 1:19-20
New International Version
“19 holding on to faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and so have suffered shipwreck with regard to the faith. 20 Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.”
If Piper is leaving blasphemous Calvinism and its false doctrine of OSAS, that’s good.
12 Take care, brothers and sisters, that there will not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart [a]that falls away from the living God. (Heb. 3:12)
4 For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 and then have [a]fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, [b]since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. (Heb. 6:4-6)
26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has ignored the Law of Moses is put to death without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severe punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Heb. 10:26-31)
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1 Timothy 1:19-20
New International Version
“19 holding on to faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and so have suffered shipwreck with regard to the faith. 20 Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.”
If Piper is leaving blasphemous Calvinism and its false doctrine of OSAS, that’s good.
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12 Take care, brothers and sisters, that there will not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart [a]that falls away from the living God. (Heb. 3:12)
4 For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 and then have [a]fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, [b]since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. (Heb. 6:4-6)
26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has ignored the Law of Moses is put to death without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severe punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Heb. 10:26-31)
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