Like Father, Like Son? Allegations Surface Against Father of Accused Oregon Megachurch Pastor
(Roys Report) Ben Courson, pastor of an Oregon megachurch, recently stepped down amid allegations of sexual abuse and misconduct. Now, witnesses have come forward with allegations that Ben’s father, Jon Courson—founder of Applegate Christian Fellowship near Medford, Oregon—had an inappropriate relationship with a woman in the 1980s.
Also, like Applegate reportedly handled the recent allegations against Ben Courson, witnesses say church leaders in the 1980s covered up Jon Courson’s misconduct, as well.
Plus, several former church members, including a former elder and staff pastor, are accusing…
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Editor’s Note. This article was written by Rebecca Hopkins and published at the Roys report. It features new revelations to the story we wrote titled Young Megachurch Pastor Steps Down as Allegations of Sexual Misconduct Rise Up showing that the dad who helped cover up the son’s indiscretions allegedly had his own that were likewise covered up.
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Roys Report, linked as the original article in the above story, also has a much more extensive report on John MacArthur’s finical empire than the 5,000 watch only mentioned on this site. It makes interesting reading. Also, that site was quickly doxxed for reporting it by Grace Community, (and apparently illegally under Californian law).
Roys itself appears to have much more detailed information on the stories they publish, they actually appear to do their own research and asking people involved, unlike so many others who just copy and repost stories from elsewhere. They also have a commentary section which requires using your real name. I haven’t used the site much, but I’ve been impressed the few times I have, and I hope that continues.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Matthew 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
The Roy Report is a phoney website doing fake journalism. It is lower than Wikipedia. No one can take it seriously except the unwary. We analyzed that website at both theologyarchaeology and theoarch websites and found them less than Christian
On a side note, my ad blocker has blocked over 2,000 pop up ads since I came onto this page. No way am I taking it off to please this group
As opposed to what? Lordship salvation, cessationism, $5,000 watches and go back to the holy roman empire theology of MacArthur? You didn’t list any thing to support your views, and while I might listen if you had any facts, you didn’t have any.
Lordship salvation is a heresy that also happens fly in the face of good traditional baptist doctrine, cessationism is adding to the bible and making a bad argument that actually helps Pentecosts continue to babble – because it’s a teaching made by an unsaved person who doesn’t understand, $5,000 dollar watches and the rest are just a sign of that – if you have to earn your salvation and your not really saved, its work – why wouldn’t you want lots of money?, and Romans 13 is an odd teaching in America, who revolted against their previous government because God led them to because it wasn’t right. The last two are from this site. I also hadn’t heard of the mark of the beast controversy except from on here – but he tries to change what Revelation says in his teaching because he doesn’t understand it again.
To be fair, I’ve only looked at the Roy Report when it has been linked on here, but when I have, it has been very useful. As far as MacArthur’s finances mentioned on the Roy Report beyond the 5,000 watch mentioned on protestia, I’m willing to look at any claims of inaccurency of facts. RR seems to mainly deal in claims of fact not doctrine, but it isn’t claims of fact I’m looking at with MacAuthor, but doctrine. I’m expecting to see it as a result of it- but not all claims may be accurate.
PS – I turn on tracker blocking to. I would not if it was just flat ads, but those companies on conservative sites are not just paying for ads, but tracking users, and they’ve been shown to be censorious users. They don’t want to track users for anything good.
Julie Roy’s has an agenda and it’s not to further the gospel. She had information that did not support her narrative and she failed to publish it.
The congregation gave the watch to him in appreciation of and in celebration of his 50th anniversary in ministry. Yes, they could’ve chosen a less wordly gift, but he should not reject their gift of love and appreciation or refuse to wear it.
MacArthur’s home was built in the 70s on donated land, and most assuredly with some degree of donated materials and labor
Julie Roys home is the same size as MacArthur’s. I doubt she bought it in the 70s. Why isn’t she accountable for what she does with the income she earns? Has she shown us how she spends her resources for the Kingdom? Why is Pastor John accountable but the accuser isn’t?
For the real truth about Pastor John’s responsible financial stewardship please reference Justin Peter’s interview with Phil Johnson titled “John MacArthur’s Lavish Lifestyle?”
So Max, does this bother you more because no one loves you enough to buy you an expensive watch or because you aren’t able to afford to buy one for yourself?
The difference is Julie Roy’s doesn’t make her living off the backs of the flock.
That’s the point!
Here’s an example from MacArthur from online, and I’m not in a mind to delve into this heresy at the moment, but keep in mind Galatians 1:8.
“The gospel call to faith presupposes that sinners must repent of their sin and yield to Christ’s authority.” In other words, a sinner who refuses to repent is not saved, for he cannot cling to his sin and the Savior at the same time. ”
A sinner who turns to Jesus Christ to be saved can not give up his sin until Jesus Christ saves him and makes him a new creature, 2 Corinthians 5:17. He is incapable of “giving that” to God. It is God instead that is giving a gift to him. And about all he is aware of is he is a sinner that is wholly unable to save himself, who could not name all his sins or even knows them all , and that Jesus Christ can save him, and even all that was because God gave him the faith and knowledge to know it.
All this is a lot like Pentecostals (and other anti-Christian cults).
1. They attack all other saved believers. It’s you haven’t received the Holy Spirit the moment you were saved with Pentecostals (you need a new spirit instead that has you rolling on floor babbling). It’s “easy believism” with MacArthur. Saved by grace, by faith and not of yourselves alone is not enough for either — because they haven’t been and don’t understand.
2. They introduce works to it – works, that is not possible without God making you a new creature beforehand and giving it to you. It’s holiness with Pentecostals, it’s lordship salvation with MacArthur.
3. They seem to love money. Pentecostals by some stealthy doctrine like prosperity gospels. MacArthur by more traditional means, and giving to family (at least if RR is right, and I’m willing to look at the proved contrary). And it isn’t good baptist doctrine, but to be fair MacArthur doesn’t call his church name baptist (but since it isn’t, and this site says it is, I’m mentioning it).
4. They both come up with phoney ideas of gifts, one to mock it – one of the most precious gifts of God, and babble it, and the other to build a strawman and say it doesn’t exist. So what about all those Christians – seen in all denominations (churches) for the last 2,000 years, who have had gifts from God? They just don’t exist because two fakers defined them as otherwise? No more prayers answered, healing asked for, praise in church and those praises explained to the unsaved?
I don’t really see a difference between them. Both attack all other Christians in very libelous ways (an attack on the Holy Spirit, and an attack on a work of the Holy Spirit “easy belivitism), both introduce a similar work gospel, both treat it as a profit business profession and or are very good at it. Both introduce a false idea of gifts, and then try to suck all the air out of the room from any sensible discussion of it.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Matthew 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Carla, I made quite clear what I said. Mcarthur teaches gross apostasies, and aimed at Baptist churches, while not even claiming to be one.
I was very clear, made a list of some not all, and even provided an example. Not addressing that and instead taunting with a side issue, one I said I expected to find from the false teachings, is exactly like every wicked person in the bible acts like before they get punished, mocking while being warned.
I stand by what I said. Mcarthur looks much worse the more I look. He is a heretic. And as far as Roy’s site goes, I checked some of the information, and yes, things like not providing financials, removing self from accounting organization so not to provide them, family members on board, including one that was charged with fraud are all true.
But my point is not a heritical teacher is only bad if he makes money at it. If anyone sincerely wants to talk about that, I will address examples of it.